Re: Rewarding occupations

[Herbert H Gottlieb <herbgottlieb@JUNO.COM>]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:44:07 -0500 Sheron Snyder <snyders@VOYAGER.NET>
writes:
> Herb
>
> Is the attitude displayed in the lines you cited part of the cause
> for those teachers leaving?

I fail to see any correlation between the two.
Please explain how the lines I quoted would be a cause for teachers to
leave the profession.

> Our internal bickering and complaining does little or nothing to
> build up our profession.

I am totally unaware of any significant "internal bickering and
complaining" that may be taking place at the present time.  Here,
in New York City and possibly other areas of the country many teachers
are being discouraged by ccomparatively low salaries and difficult
students who have little or no ambition to succeed in school.

> Please help the profession by not distributing this old saw, our
> younger teachers deserve better than we got, so we should be supporting

> them.

Your statement, above, implies that we did not get sufficient rewards
for our teaching careers.  That is not true at all.
In my last communication, reproduced below, I clearly implied
that teaching is a very rewarding occupation. Those who are
unable to succeed at it are advised to choose a "less rewarding
occupation". By all means..... teaching is a VERY rewarding
occupation and our younger teachers certainly deserve the
conditions that we had in our day. But these conditions no longer exist!

Herb Gottlieb from New York City
(Where the younger teachers in our inner city schools
are being handicapped with thousands of students who
have little or no respect for formal learning in our schools.)



> Sheron Snyder
>
>
> Taught before college, taught after college, taught for pay at high
> school
> 31+ yr, teach for pay at Comical 20 yr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herbert H Gottlieb" <herbgottlieb@JUNO.COM>
> To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:17 PM
> Subject: Rewarding occupations
>
>
> > Thanks to Len Jossem for adding the last line!
> >
> >
> >         Those who can, do
> >
> >         Those who can't, teach
> >
> >         Those who can't teach, teach teachers to teach
> >
> >         Those who can't teach teachers to teach should choose
> >         a less rewarding occupation
> >
> > Herb Gottlieb from New York City
> > (Where teacher salaries are low and the rate of our teachers
> leaving
> > their classrooms is high)


Herb Gottlieb from New York City
A nice friendly  place to live and visit