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Re: There's work, and then there's work



David Rutherford wrote:

I noticed this interesting comment at

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capeng.html

regarding the energy stored on a capacitor:

"From the definition of voltage as the energy per unit charge, one might
expect that the energy stored on this ideal capacitor would be just QV.
That is, all the work done on the charge in moving it from one plate to
the other would appear as energy stored. But in fact, the expression
above shows that just half of that work appears as energy stored in the
capacitor. For a finite resistance, one can show that half of the energy
supplied by the battery for the charging of the capacitor is dissipated
as heat in the resistor, regardless of the size of the resistor."


Yes - the battery energy is reduced by qV, half going to the resistive
heating and the other 1/2 qV going to the capacitor. But, since q = CV, the
energy increase in the capacitor is 1/2 CV^2, exactly as argued here many
times.

If this is true, doesn't it imply that, when the capacitor is
discharged, only half of the energy stored on the capacitor will be
dissipated as heat in the resistor, therefore, the calorimeter
experiment would only give _half_ of the energy stored on the capacitor?

Not at all - it's now a different circuit - the battery is no longer present
- hence no fixed EMF. The energy in the capacitor has no place to go but to
resistive heating. It all appears in the calorimeter.

Bob at PC