Re: electric power surplus

[Rick Tarara <rtarara@SAINTMARYS.EDU>]

Sure you can have cleaner power and manufacturing--but how quickly do you
want it.  If tomorrow (or within a decade) then expect to pay BIG bucks to
get it.  If you regulate for new construction or provide a reasonable
timetable for retrofitting, then you can have it in a generation or so at a
modest cost.  Seems to me that we are on the latter course.  It's the huge
number of power plants/manufacturing facilities that is the hang-up.

Rick

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Barrer" <forcejb@YAHOO.COM>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: electric power surplus


> Why do folks so often present these arguments as
> either/or??? It IS possible to operate power plants,
> chemical plants, etc. with very low pollution impacts.
> It's just easier and often cheaper to do otherwise as
> long as the indirect costs of pollution can be passed
> on to others. John BArrere
> --- Rick Tarara <rtarara@SAINTMARYS.EDU> wrote:
> > And do you want to return to the days of mud streets
> > filled with horse
> > manure, to outhouses, to no medical technology and
> > rampant disease, to
> > (more) widespread ignorance, etc?  The problem is
> > that you can't selectively
> > turn back the clock--keep the good and discard what
> > _you_ dislike.  What you
> > might want to keep (say medical tech and sanitation)
> > depends on those nasty
> > old power plants and chemical plants!
> >
> > Rick
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> > Richard W. Tarara
> > Professor of Physics
> > Saint Mary's College
> > Notre Dame, Indiana
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sam Sampere" <sampere@PHYSICS.SYR.EDU>
> > To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: electric power surplus
> >
> >
> > > The Labor Day storms knocked out power here for
> > almost one week and
> > > people were in agony!  I loved it.  The evenings
> > were so peaceful and
> > > quiet.  I'd love to go back to a time when there
> > were way less people on
> > > the planet, and they all knew how to survive
> > despite what Mother Nature
> > > threw at them.
> > >
> > > Sam
> > >
> > > John Barrer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do yu think you're being funny? You're not. John
> > > > Barrere
> > > > --- Bob LaMontagne
> > <rlamont@POSTOFFICE.PROVIDENCE.EDU>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Power plants, oil refineries, factories,
> > hospitals -
> > > > > they're all ugly,
> > > > > smelly, and ruin the environment of those who
> > live
> > > > > within 1000 ft of them.
> > > > > Let's shut 'em all down. I say 6000 BC  now!
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob at PC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tina Fanetti wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > And that because of needless environmental
> > > > > regulation
> > > > > > and insufficient investment in electric
> > power
> > > > > production.<<<
> > > > > > Why are you saying that the environmental
> > > > > regulation is needless?  Ha=
> > > > > > ve you ever lived by a power plant??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tina
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tina Fanetti
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