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Re: Confused by a derivation.



The field due to an idealized infinte sheet of charge is sigma/2epsilon.

The total field (due to the universe) just off a conductor in static
equilibrium is sigma/epsilon.

Bob Sciamanda (W3NLV)
Physics, Edinboro Univ of PA (em)
trebor@velocity.net
http://www.velocity.net/~trebor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ludwik Kowalski" <kowalskiL@MAIL.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 3:34 PM
Subject: Confused by a derivation.


I have no doubt that the formula for C (of the ideal parallel-plate
capacitor, C=eps_o*A/d) is correct. But its derivation, based on
Gauss's Law, is not very convincing. What am I missing?

In the 5th edition of "Physics for Scientists and Engineers"
Serway and Beichner derive the formula as if the field between
the plates were due to two non-conductive plates of charge. In
other words, they multiply E'=sigma/(2*esp_o) by 2 and
produce the correct formula for C. This is on page 807.

But two layers of sigma in a capacitor reside on metallic
plates and each plate produces E"=sigma/eps_o. On that basis
I would expect the net field between the plates to be twice as
large as that used in the derivation. Something must be wrong
with this expectation because it leads to a wrong formula,
C=0.5*eps_o*A/d. Where am I wrong?

The same derivation can be seen in Tipler's book ("Physics
for Scientists and Engineers", page 692) and in several other
textbooks. If each plate alone is contributing E'=sigma/eps_o
then why is it wrong to expect the two plates to produce a
field which is twice as large (inside a narrow gap)?
Ludwik Kowalski