Re: Assessment; evaluation of GRE scores

[Bernard Cleyet <anngeorg@PACBELL.NET>]

that and the exploitation of the indentured, paperless, and slaves.

bc


"Shapiro, Mark" wrote:

> Dear Brian et al.,
>
>         The large number of Asian (and to a lesser extent eastern European)
> graduate students in American physics graduate programs can be traced in

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>         I don't see this necessarily as bad.  Highly motivated immigrants
> have contributed to the economic success of the United States for two
> centuries.
>
> Mark Shapiro
> http://www.IrascibleProfessor.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian whatcott [mailto:inet@INTELLISYS.NET]
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:20 AM
> To: PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu
> Subject: Re: Assessment; evaluation of GRE scores
>
> At 11:23 8/26/01 -0400, Jim Peters wrote:
> > /snip/
> > >     ... in most Chinese physics departments there are books ... about
> > >     an 80-85% chance of having all the questions on the next exam to
> > >     be given.
> > /snip/
> >
> > Where do they get these questions?  They are not published and distributed
> > by ETS.  They must be collected for previous test takers memory and
> > compiled.
> /snip/
> > Jim
>
> It is your background, even your duty, not to take assertions on trust.
>  For example, how would you *know* what texts are in most Chinese physics
> departments?   You might have been party to some conversations wherein
> two or three Chinese physics graduates remark that they had access to back
> year GRE exams.
> Even that's hear-say.
> And for my part, I opine that if you find numerous Asian masters and PhDs
> at research institutions, it's pretty certain its not because they had
> access to the CURRENT YEAR'S exams when they took them. You're likely to
> find they are both smart, and steeped in years of heavy duty study, driven
> initially by parental expectations and continued by an ambition of a
> particular sort.
>
> Brian
>
> brian whatcott <inet@intellisys.net>  Altus OK
>                 Eureka!