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Re: "4/3 Problem" Resolution (fwd), comment on



On Wed, 16 May 2001 11:12:36 -0500, Jack Uretsky <jlu@HEP.ANL.GOV> wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2001, David Rutherford wrote (in relevant part):
[Uretsky had written]

Specifying curl(A) is not the same as specifying A. Since the
curl of a gradient is zero, I can add any gradient to A without changing
the value of the curl. But there is an infinity of gradients that will
change the value of div(A). That's part of the principal of gauge
invariance.

Then it's incumbant on you to find a condition under which the value of
div(A) is not changed or you must dump the concept of gauge invariance,
because div(A) is definitely specified. In this three-dimensional, time
invariant case, gauge invariance is only possible if the condition

d^2(/\)/dx^2 + d^2(/\)/dy^2 + d^2(/\)/dz^2 = 0

is satisfied. If you don't choose to accept that condition, then you have
to
abandon the validity of gauge invariance for this case. Periodisimo.

Ahh, there we have it. David's quarrel is with gauge invariance.
But the principle of gauge invariance derives from the statement
that only the fields are physical. The potentials (A and phi) are not.

Div(A) involves the _derivatives_ of A, not A. The derivatives of A are
physical, therefore div(A) is physical.

Stated otherwise, it is the Maxwell equations, expressed in terms
of the E and B fields that completely describe classical electrodynamics.

They don't describe a totally electromagnetic mass.

David evidently wants to make some condition on div(A) an addition to
the Maxwell Equations (that is, a gauge-fixing condition). Such a
condition would have far-reaching consequences,

Now you're catching on.

because all accepted calculations to date insist on gauge invariance.

Not my fault you guys got it wrong.

A recent relevant example is the eight order (in charge) calculation of the
muon g-2 done over the years by Kinoshita and others.

How does that affect what I've said?

Regards,
Dave