Re: What Does TIMSS Teach Us? (was "The Benezet-Berman Experiment (LONG!")

[Jack Uretsky <jlu@HEP.ANL.GOV>]

Many thanks.  But I am asking that the suggested information be made part
of the dialogue.  In short, it wasn't my dime.
                                        Regards,
                                                Jack

Adam was by constitution and proclivity a scientist; I was the same, and
we loved to call ourselves by that great name...Our first memorable
scientific discovery was the law that water and like fluids run downhill,
not up.
                          Mark Twain, <Extract from Eve's Autobiography>

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Waggoner, Bill wrote:

> Here is where you find those answers.. or at least begin your search.
>
>
> http://nces.ed.gov/timss/
> http://nces.ed.gov/timss/twelfth/index.html#executivesummary
> http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp?pubid=98049
> http://www.ed.gov/pubs/TIMSSBrief/
> http://nces.ed.gov/pressrelease/timss298.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Uretsky [mailto:jlu@HEP.ANL.GOV]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:23 PM
> To: PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu
> Subject: Re: What Does TIMSS Teach Us? (was "The Benezet-Berman
> Experiment (LONG!")
>
>
> Hi all-
>         I appreciate Dick Hake's detailed response to my suggestion
> that we look to other TIMMS participants for guidance as to successful
> educational strategies.  The response focussed on German and Japanese
> practices.  There were, however, two crucial omissions.
>         Dick forgot to tell us how students from these two countries
> fared in TIMMS.  That information is, of course, vital to the evaluation
> of the national practices.
>         More importantly, there was little information in Dick's response
> concerning educational practices in grades K-3.  I have reason to believe
> that student experience in these grades may largely determine a student's
> attitude toward education.  I base my belief on extensive discussions that
> I had a couple of years ago with a Chinese woman who was at that time
> a graduate student in Physics in a U.S. university - she later
> successfully completed her thesis on a topic related to QCD.  The emphasis
> in her school in the earliest years was almost exclusively on reading
> and arithmetic.
>                                         Regards,
>                                                 Jack
>
> Adam was by constitution and proclivity a scientist; I was the same, and
> we loved to call ourselves by that great name...Our first memorable
> scientific discovery was the law that water and like fluids run downhill,
> not up.
>                           Mark Twain, <Extract from Eve's Autobiography>