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Re: Newton's 3rd law? was Re: inertial forces (definition)



Hi Jack,
Yes, but they both indicate a numerical equality.
That was the question.

Bob

Bob Sciamanda (W3NLV)
Physics, Edinboro Univ of PA (em)
trebor@velocity.net
http://www.velocity.net/~trebor

----- Original Message -----
From: JACK L. URETSKY (C)1998; HEP DIVISION, ARGONNE NATIONAL LAB ARGONNE,
IL 60439 <JLU@HEP.ANL.GOV>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Newton's 3rd law? was Re: inertial forces (definition)


Hi Bob-
In response to:
*********************************************************
Hi Jack,
Out of curiosity, can you indicate any mathematical statements in
Physics
where " = " does not mean a numerical (or perhaps vector or tensor)
equality?
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At the risk of flagellating a moribund equine, yes:
VxB = |V||B|sine(theta) where "theta" is the angle
between
the two vectors V and B.
This statement is a mathematical identity (definition of the
cross
product) and has no physical content.
Contrast that use of the equal sign with:
F = VxB
which does have physical content. It relates the numerical values of
the
6 independently measurable components of V and B with the three
independently
measurable values of the components of F.
The equal sign in the first equation stands for "is", in the
second
equation it predicts the result of an experiment.
John expanded on this theme in his post following your question.
Regards,
Jack




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