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Re: [Phys-L] let's define energy



Quoting Rachel Scherr again... "... examples of intuitive ontologies for
energy that we have observed in classroom contexts [... include] energy as
a quasi-material substance; as a means of activation; as a fuel; and as an
ineffable quantity which is not subject to further analysis. In the
classroom, multiple and overlapping metaphors for energy complement one
another in complex representations of physical phenomena. "

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:33 AM, David Bowman <
David_Bowman@georgetowncollege.edu> wrote:

Regarding Diego's observation:

...
"1. Thermal energy is less useful"

I do not agree, if you want to take a bath is better to have
water at 40C or so, than a charged battery. ...

Of all the problems previously discussed concerning the oft-used
definition of energy in terms of 'available' work those associated with
defining it in terms of 'useful' work are even worse, and Diego's
observation above illustrates this. This is because not only are all the
problems with the 'available' definition still present with the 'useful'
definition, but there are even more problems with the 'useful' definition.
A main purpose of the science of physics is to attempt to understand the
behavior of physical things in terms of objective notions, categories and
processes. The concept of 'usefulness' is extremely *subjective* in
depending on many more idiosyncratic and internal things associated with an
observer than merely how the observer's frame of reference is happened to
be embedded in space-time. If we must have some sort of definition for
energy I think it is *really* bad form to try to define an objective
property of a physical system (albeit with a particular value tha
t happens to be reference frame dependent) in terms of other notions that
are themselves manifestly and thoroughly subjective. In art it may be okay
to have a notion such as beauty being in the eye of the beholder, but in a
science it is not ok to have something like energy be so subjective.

David Bowman
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