Re: [Phys-L] Liars?

[Richard Tarara <rtarara@saintmarys.edu>]

Yes I saw that and don't disagree....just saying that some prestigious 
groups of scientists HAVE been looking at the 1198-2010 period as a 
slowing of the rate of increase.  I also take the conclusion on recent 
data to say that the rate of warming has now gone back up and matches 
the 90s but not necessarily that it has been at that rate all along.  
New data may well refine how we view the first decade of this century, 
but calling those who were calling this a slowing or a plateau should 
not be called liars.  I would tell my classes that the temperatures 
seemed fairly stable (from the data at the time) during this period, but 
that the models could accommodate this but more importantly the 
temperatures were NOT going down.

rwt

On 12/25/2015 2:26 PM, Marty Weiss wrote:
> (Did you miss the last paragraph from the same source?)  "Meanwhile, other environmental indicators of climate change—melting ice in Greenland, the retreat of Arctic sea ice, global sea level rise—continue to send a clear signal that Earth is still warming. Over the coming century, human-caused warming will continue, with natural variability periodically speeding up or slowing down the pace from decade to decade."
>
> Also, the latest update in the very beginning clearly changes the paper's main thesis of slow down in warming which used data up to 2012.
>
> Conclusion:  they are not "lying",; just needed clarification and an update to state that warming continued during the period in question, and is continuing to do so to the present.  The ocean warming trends clearly demonstrate this up to earlier dates and that will probably be updated soon as well.
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> On Dec 25, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Richard Tarara wrote:
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> > Might want to look at something like this before calling anyone liars......
> >
> > https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/why-did-earth%E2%80%99s-surface-temperature-stop-rising-past-decade
> >
> > rwt
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