Re: [Phys-L] just for fun?

[Richard Tarara <rtarara@saintmarys.edu>]

Exactly what research is this?  The plots that have been shown 
consistently over the past dozen years from the ice-core data show a 
several hundred year lag!  To be sure, this may be due to the fact that 
the temperature changes in this data have been mostly due to glaciation 
and de-glaciation with CO2 effects that are relatively complicated as 
detailed in the reference given earlier.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/04/unlocking-the-secrets-to-ending-an-ice-age/

My complaint lies with the likes of Al Gore who centrally used this data 
to PROVE that CO2 was causing the current warming and telling everyone 
they were complete idiots if they couldn't see this from his huge plot.  
Of course the scale--despite the size--was compressed enough that the 
lag was not clearly visible. I'm comfortable with the models that show 
the current CO2 is forcing most of the warming (still waiting for more 
on the CFC link reported by the Japanese), but am every bit as fed up 
with the name calling and the exaggerations and downright lies that are 
used to try and get across the reality of AGW as with the those trying 
to pretend the situation doesn't exist.

[Read the responses at the web site above for some of the nastiness even 
amongst the scientists. :-( ]

rwt

On 1/3/2014 2:52 PM, John Clement wrote:
> But the latest careful research shows that CO2 does not lag the rise in
> temperatures.
>
> John M. Clement
> Houston, TX


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