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Re: [Phys-L] just for fun?



But the latest careful research shows that CO2 does not lag the rise in
temperatures.

John M. Clement
Houston, TX


I show this video, Unstoppable Solar Cycles, to my students each year.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl4Pz1mwBao

They say the Sun is the main driver of climate on Earth.
Around 5:25, they show the temperature and CO2 graph (with
CO2 always lagging temperature rise).


Phys-L@Phys-L.org writes:
For those interested, here is a review that includes a discussion of
CO2 lagging longer term historical temperature changes.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/04/unlocki
ng-the-sec
rets-to-ending-an-ice-age/




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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:25:19 -0800
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To: Phys-L@Phys-L.org
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Subject: [Phys-L] AGCC Was: Re: just for fun
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On 2014, Jan 02, , at 12:02, Richard Tarara
<rtarara@saintmarys.edu>
wrote:

One of the confusing issues here that really gets us chasing our
tails
is 'just what is the consensus view?' Certainly it is that
the earth
has warmed over the last century, certainly that the CO-2
levels have
risen dramatically especially over the past 50 years, AND
that there is
a connection between these. Where the consensus is weaker
involves the
extent that the warming is due to the CO-2 which models certainly
support but long-term historical records are more confusing
since those
tend to show CO-2 changes lagging temperature changes.

Has anyone suggested another model that is as rapid as the hockey
stick? I don?t know of any cause that is as rapid as the
current event.
Excepting cooling (volcano and meteorite).

bc notes a respected skeptic has now fully embraced AGCC.

For example:

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2010/12/20/instant-physicist/

And:

previously posted:



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a
-climate-c
hange-skeptic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0




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"True teachers are those who use themselves as bridges over
which they
invite their students to cross; then, having facilitated their
crossing, joyfully collapse, encouraging them to create their own."
--Nickos Kazantzakis

Kyle
kforinas@ius.edu



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