Re: [Phys-L] problems with the teaching of algebra

[Ze'ev Wurman <zeev@ieee.org>]

I think bc is somewhat wrong here.

CBEST is needed for elementary teachers and it does NOT require algebra. 
None of the examples at the link requires algebra either.

CSET (http://www.ctcexams.nesinc.com/test_info_CSET.asp?t=111) is 
required for single-subject teachers, and it requires algebra and more. 
But most elementary teachers do not take the CSET in math.

Incidentally, I do agree with much of what JD wrote on this issue (I'm 
not sure I agree with the "sequencing" being an big issue).

Ze'ev

On 10/11/2014 4:55 PM, Bernard Cleyet wrote:
> On 2014, Oct 11, , at 14:13, John Denker <jsd@av8n.com> wrote:
>
> > Example:  Today, your typical second-grade teacher could not
> > solve an algebra problem if their life depended on it.  College
> > algebra is required for a teaching certificate, so you have to
> > wonder how these folks got where they are, but that's a question
> > for another day.
>
> Wrong for CA.  (and Oregon)
>
> New teachers must pass the CBEST!
>
> I don’t remember it, except it was not a piece of cake.  Cheque out a practice xam.
>
> Lotsa algebra:
>
> CBEST Math Practice Questions
>
> http://www.studyguidezone.com/cbest_math.htm
>
> And Gate Keeper Seese  (retired elementary school teacher) had a four year HS series — did well until vectors.   Thought algebra was fun.
>
>
> bc
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