Re: [Phys-l] Climate skeptic convinced by data. Was: Re: Mike Mann _The hockey

["Anthony Lapinski" <Anthony_Lapinski@pds.org>]

Global warming is a complex issue, and I'm no expert. I'm not sure what
the "overwhelming scientific consensus" is either.

Check out this ten-minute video clip (Unstoppable Solar Cycles):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl4Pz1mwBao

at 2:40 -- the little ice age
at 4:15 -- correlations of sunspots and climate/weather
at 5:25 -- Earth's temperature rises before CO2 levels rise (by 600
years)!!
at 6:50 -- oceans contain much CO2 and Sun's heat releases it

It's certainly an eye-opening video -- if the data/facts are correct.



Forum for Physics Educators <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu> writes:
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Anthony Lapinski wrote:
>
> > Yes, we can't do anything about the Sun and its energy output. It
> affects the Earth much more than anything humans have ever done or will
> ever do.
>
> Already so stipulated.
>
> > The timeline for global warming does correspond with the industrial
> age, but there is no direct proof of causality.
>
> And how could there be?  Science rarely if ever provides "proofs."
>
> > We'd have to wait hundreds of years for more data.
>
> I'd say a LOT more than that!
>
> > We do have core samples and tree rings which correlate with sunspot
> numbers and show amounts of CO2, etc.
> > I brought in politics because this really has become a political debate
> when governments put regulations on air quality, automobiles, etc. But
> since the main cause of global warming is the Sun, then these laws are
> really meaningless.
>
> That is simply nonsense.  The Sun is obviously the main cause of Earth
> BEING a lot warmer than it would otherwise be.  However, it is not at
> *all* obvious, that the Sun is the "main cause" of what *everybody*
> understand the phrase "global warming" to mean.  Indeed, the overwhelming
> scientific consensus is that it is not.
>
> John Mallinckrodt
> Cal Poly Pomona
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