Re: [Phys-l] Global warming violates FLT AND Le Chatelier

["David Marx" <marx@phy.ilstu.edu>]

The whole exchange was unfortunate.  Joe Bastardi seemed to be talking off the top of his head, 
remembering only parts of arguments, mispeaking several times, and not really explaining anything.  I 
do not think he was lying, so much as simply being wrong on a number of points.

To understand anything about the issue of global warming/climate change requires a extensive study 
of the scientific literature.  These kind of sound bites are harmful to science and to the public 
understanding of the real issues of the debates in climate science.  

I do not think that as educators that we serve students by simply regurgitating the summary statement 
from the IPCC either.  Rather, we should pick one or two issues that are being discussed amongst 
climate scientists, explain the arguments, examine physical data, and try to sort out which side is most 
likely correct.  Here, I am not talking about so-called "deniers" versus "believers."  I am talking about 
scientists doing science. 



On 10 Aug 2011 at 17:17, John Clement wrote:

> You know what they say about liars.  Unfortunately meterologists tend to
> disbelieve global warming for some reason.  But that may just be the
> weathermen on TV rather than the scientists who are actively studying the
> weather.  And in this case disbelief in human induced global warming is
> mandated by the managers of the station.  Notice that they pooh-poohed the
> hot weather as an indicator, but in the winter they calaimed the cold
> weather was proof of lack of global warming.
>
> Again, this sort of bias I linked to political aims.  We have certainly
> failed to get students to really undestand science.
>
> John M. Clement
> Houston, TX
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> > You unlearn something every day.
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> >   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dYzXbGnWg8
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