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Re: [Phys-l] Electronic Textbooks & MasteringPhysics



Hi Tim,

I have been using Mastering Physics (MP) for almost two years in an introductory calculus-based physics course using Randy Knight's textbook. I have had some similar experiences to what Don (Polvani) has described.

I want to add a few other observations:
(1) my students (240 in the fall and 150 in the spring) and I have had glitches after Pearson's update of MP, or after a browser is updated in midsemester (eg., Chrome). The slow response to these problems from MP techs has lead to a bit of frustration for both my students and my TAs. I still have no idea why different browsers suddenly became unusable at MP last fall. (Luckily, one solution was to switch to a different browser and keep switching every time it happened.)

(2) I have MP set up to allow students to view the solutions after the assignment deadline is passed. In two years I have not had more than 15 students look at a worked-out solution (there are thirteen assignments each semester). I had thought that this was a plus, but it has not been for my students. (This may be related to the proliferation of online copies of the Instructor's Solutions Manual.)

(3) The statistics for each question before you assign a problem/ tutorial are useful and I have found the statistics on how your students have done (e.g., time to complete) quite useful.

(4) There are MP problems where students are required to write a response. I assigned a couple of these in my first semester with MP and discovered that grading these responses was a tortuous problem for my TAs. Although rosters of students grades can be set up by each TA, no such mechanism exists for grading the written questions. The first TA to grade a written response needs to look through the ALL written questions in order to grade those from her/his roster. I complained to the tech staff at MP about this and nothing has changed (to my knowledge) in 1.5 years. I also no longer assign these types of questions.

(5) Problems in which numbers given in a problem are changed ("revolving numbers" problems) for each student (you need to know/ memorize the method of solution, not just an answer) has lead to groups of students getting together to complete the problems. They help each other out (a big plus!). An interesting side effect is the willingness of some students to "sacrifice" a guess at an answer (I give them three tries.) to determine whose method of solution is likely correct.

Overall, I like MP. It eases the grading workload of my TAs, the "revolving numbers" problems require more understanding than getting an answer, and the tutorials are great (particularly, some of the newer ones like the few from PhET).

The glitches are problematic. We deal with them by having TAs modify the grades, or by using two weighting schemes at the end of the semester for the written and MP assignments (giving students the higher of the two schemes).

The two major complaints I have are: (1) tech response to mistakes, errors, and problems (same as Don's comments)
(2) the inability to assign a different grading policy for each problem rather than for each assignment.

I hope you find my comments useful.


On May 10, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Folkerts, Timothy J wrote:

I have the possibility to switch to electronic textbooks and more online assignments (Specifically the "Mastering" package from Pearson). I was wondering what experience others have had with these.

I teach at a community college with a small enrollment in physics (typically 6-12 in both calc-based and non-calc-based). The "Mastering" package seems like a valuable system, especially for reading quizzes and practice problems.

The electronic text I am less sure about. The electronic text is considerably cheaper, but they only have access for 2 years, I believe. Perhaps I am too old-school and prefer holding a book in my hands. Do students learn better or worse from an electronic version? Obviously they can only work where they have access to a computer, which could occasionally be a problem. We do have 8 computers around the classroom, so they could at least share copies during class if we need (or I can project it onto a screen).


David Clark
Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
University of Maine
declark@maine.edu