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[Phys-l] Marketer Armstrong vs Economist Krugman on Global Warming



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Brian Hauser (2011) in his Physoc post "NYT Letter from J Scott Armstrong" wrote [my insert at ". . . . . .[[insert]]. . . ."; my CAPS]:

"The context of this letter. . . . . [[Armstrong (2011)]]. . . . . is perhaps clear from its content. It refers to a recent article by Paul Krugman (Apr 4). . . . . .[[Krugman (2011]. . . . ridiculing the choices for those invited for testimony on climate change in a recent hearing in congress. HAS ANYONE HEARD OF THIS FELLOW? While I appreciate that nonscientists can bring important perspectives to what we do (if anything) about climate change, I find his recommendation troubling, and perhaps justification for Krugman's ridicule."

Hauser quotes Armstrong's letter rather than simply point readers to <http://nyti.ms/fHsrJk>.

Who is J. Scott Armstrong? A Google search for ["J. Scott Armstrong" forecasting] (with the quotes ". . . ." but without the square brackets [. . . .]) yielded 39,800 hits on 12 April 2011 09:00-0700 at <http://bit.ly/dXw7c5>.

After carefully studying each of the 39,800 hits ;-) I decided that the best was the first: PFSIG (2011) "Political Forecasting Special Interest Group," wherein is stated:

"Professor Armstrong is internationally known for his pioneering work on forecasting methods. He is author of "Long-Range Forecasting". . . ..[[Armstrong (1985)]]. . . ., the most frequently cited book on forecasting methods, and "Principles of Forecasting". . . . [[Armstrong (2001), voted the "Favorite Book - First 25 Years" by researchers and practitioners associated with the International Institute of Forecasters. He is a co-founder of the "Journal of Forecasting," the "International Journal of Forecasting," the "International Symposium on Forecasting," and forecastingprinciples.com. . . . .[[ <http://bit.ly/giUD8M>]]. . . .. He is a co-developer of new methods including rule-based forecasting, causal forces for extrapolation, simulated interaction, and structured analogies."

How could Krugman (2011) possibly ridicule the congressional testimony of anyone with the above credentials? Krugman wrote [bracketed by lines "KKKK. . . ."; my insert at ". . . . . .[[insert]]. . . ."; my CAPS]:

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SO THE JOKE BEGINS LIKE THIS: An economist, a lawyer and a PROFESSOR OF MARKETING . . . .[[J. Scott Armstrong]]. . . walk into a room. What's the punch line? They were three of the five "expert witnesses" Republicans called for last week's Congressional hearing on climate science. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The ringers (i.e., nonscientists) at last week's hearing weren't of quite the same caliber. . . .[[as Ron Paul's lead witness on monetary policy. . . best known for writing a book denouncing Abraham Lincoln as a "horrific tyrant" - and for advocating a new secessionist movement as the appropriate response to the "new American fascialistic state"]]. . . . , but their prepared testimony still had some memorable moments.

One was the lawyer's declaration that the E.P.A. can't declare that greenhouse gas emissions are a health threat, because these emissions have been rising for a century, but public health has improved over the same period. I am not making this up.

OH, AND THE MARKETING PROFESSOR. . . .[[ J. Scott Armstrong]]. . . , in providing a list of past cases of "analogies to the alarm over dangerous manmade global warming" - presumably intended to show why we should ignore the worriers - INCLUDED PROBLEMS SUCH AS ACID RAIN AND THE OZONE HOLE THAT HAVE BEEN CONTAINED PRECISELY THANKS TO ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. . . . . . . . . .
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For years now, large numbers of prominent scientists have been warning, with increasing urgency, that if we continue with business as usual, the results will be very bad, perhaps catastrophic. They could be wrong. But if you're going to assert that they are in fact wrong, you have a moral responsibility to approach the topic with high seriousness and an open mind. After all, if the scientists are right, you'll be doing a great deal of damage.

But what we had, instead of high seriousness, was a farce: a supposedly crucial hearing stacked with people who had no business being there and instant ostracism for a climate skeptic . . . . .[[ Richard Muller. . . . . . .[[<http://bit.ly/hsU3AY>]] . . . of Berkeley, a physicist who has gotten into the climate skeptic game" who was actually willing to change his mind in the face of evidence. . . . . [[see e.g., the Guardian report at <http://bit.ly/hiBDdQ>]]. . . As I said, no surprise: as Upton Sinclair pointed out long ago, it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

But it's terrifying to realize that this kind of cynical careerism - for that's what it is - has probably ensured that we won't do anything about climate change until catastrophe is already upon us.

So on second thought, I was wrong when I said that the joke was on the G.O.P.; actually, THE JOKE IS ON THE HUMAN RACE
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BTW - on a trivial note - I'm continually depressed by the reticence of editors, authors, and discussion-list posters to accept the precious gift of physicist-turned-computer-scientist Tim Berners-Lee <http://bit.ly/dPFtPa> that allows articles and reports to be brought to a reader's screen with the click of a mouse (instead of hours searching though dusty stacks - or more likely not even seeing the referenced material and remaining ignorant of its contents).


Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands
President, PEdants for Definitive Academic References which Recognize the
Invention of the Internet (PEDARRII)
<rrhake@earthlink.net>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>
<http://HakesEdStuff.blogspot.com>
<http://iub.academia.edu/RichardHake>

REFERENCES [All URL's accessed on 12 April 2011 and shortened by <http://bit.ly/>.]
Armstrong, J.S. 1985. "Long-Range Forecasting: From Crystal Ball to Computer." John Wiley, 2nd ed., Amazon.com information at <http://amzn.to/hgq61I>.

Armstrong, J.S. 2001. "Principles of Forecasting - A Handbook for Researchers and Practitioners (International Series in Operations Research & Management Science)" Springer, publisher's summary at <http://bit.ly/eg7Mad >. Amazon.com information at <http://amzn.to/flvEQW>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

Armstrong, J.S. 2011. "A Forecasting Expert Testifies About Climate Change," 10 April, letter to the New York Times; online at <http://nyti.ms/fHsrJk>.

Houser, B. 2011. "NYT Letter from J Scott Armstrong," Physoc message of 11 Apr 2011 13:24:08-0700; online at <http://bit.ly/hJCoxJ>. To access the archives of PHYSOC one needs to subscribe :-(, but that takes only a few minutes by clicking on <http://bit.ly/dVm2AM> and then clicking on "Join or leave the list (or change settings)." If you're busy, then subscribe using the "NOMAIL" option under "Miscellaneous." Then, as a subscriber, you may access the archives and/or post messages at any time, while receiving NO MAIL from the list!

Krugman, P. 2011. "The Truth, Still Inconvenient," New York Times Op-Ed; online at <http://nyti.ms/hkEfmi>. 428 Comments (as of 12 April 2011 08:35-0700) are at <http://nyti.ms/dRm3uR>.

PFSIG. 2011. "Political Forecasting Special Interest Group," online at <http://bit.ly/eB4Pft>.