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Re: [Phys-l] Interesting Shadows



In interesting shadow is seen when viewing the shadow on the ground of an airplane in the air when viewed from the planes. I have seen this a couple of times from a commercial airliner at relatively high altitudes. (Poisson's Spot ??).

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From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of richard lindgren [ral5q@virginia.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:20 AM
To: haar@physics.arizona.edu; Forum for Physics Educators
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Interesting Shadows

Hello,
Delighted to hear that others are thinking about similar things as
myself. We recently put together some laboratory activities for
physical science teachers about shadows. It is all about the penumbra
and umbra, the finite size of the light source, the size of the
object or holes producing the shadows. the screen where the shadow is
observed, and the distances between the source, object, and screen
and the fact that light rays travels in straight lines. At first other
faculty thought these activities were too simple, but after teaching
these f activities to teachers, it feel now it was right on target
and within the purview of what teachers should be teaching at the
physical science level.
Richard

On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Roger Haar wrote:

Hi,

There are things I cannot tell from your
photo's so I could easily be wrong. I suspect it
involves the umbra and the penumbra of the shadow.
When something is illuminated by an extended light
source the object cast a shadow with an umbra
and a penumbra. The area which is the umbra is
darkest and is not illuminated at all by the source.
The area which is the penumbra is illuminated by
only part of the extended source and varies from
light to dark.

As the "screen" on which the shadow is
cast gets further from the object, the penumbra
becomes larger but the umbra gets smaller and
eventually vanishes.

This is easy enough to see if one does
a bit of ray tracing. Try this with an extended
source (rays diverging from each point of the
source) and a "object" that is two obstructions,
like:


s
o | S
u C
r | R
c E
e E
N
Stretch this out as much as you can. At some point the
penumbra of the two obstructions overlap and darken the
shadow between their individual shadows.

Thanks
Roger

On 2/22/2011 2:39 PM, Marc "Zeke" Kossover wrote:

Howdy-

My school (The Jewish Community High School) has vinyl letters of
it's name on a
window, and on sunny mornings they cast a shadow on the wall across
the
hallway.

If you imagine the shadow made by the letters, you might picture a
shadow of
each of the letters with blurry edges. You might imagine the
centers of the
letters to be bright, but they aren't.

The weird bit is that the darkest parts on the wall are where the
holes in the
letters would be. They are even darker than the shadows of the
letters.

You can see pictures at my infrequently updated blog.

<http://kossover.squarespace.com/journal/2011/2/11/weird-
shadows.html>

I presume that it's diffraction related. What say you?

Marc "Zeke" Kossover



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