Re: [Phys-l] How Much Value is Added at Elite Institutions - Response to Haim #2

[William Robertson <wrobert9@ix.netcom.com>]

Just anecdotal.....I spent a few years in a lower middle class  
elementary school. There were troublemakers. Kids threatening you  
during and after class. Fights after school every day. Back then these  
kids were sent to "reform school." I don't know if that helped them,  
but it certainly helped the rest of us learn in a less threatening  
atmosphere. That was successful. If you need extra money for that,  
decriminalize pot and free up all sorts of money spent in correctional  
institutions. Pot is essentially legal anyway, what with medical  
marijuana. Go to an ersatz doctor, complain of chronic back pain, get  
a prescription, and then go next door to get your maui wowie (I'm sure  
that name places me completely out of touch with pot names these  
days). Disclaimer: Not against the legitimate uses of medical pot.

And while classroom teachers might be capable of dealing with such  
situations (that could be arguable), their hands are tied. Simply not  
allowed in most schools.

Bill




On Jan 29, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Hugh Haskell wrote:

> I agree that most classroom teachers are either physically,
> mentally or educationally capable of dealing with such situations,
> but dealing with them simply as "disciplinary problems" is hardly an
> effective way to solve the problem. We have been using those methods
> for decades--no, centuries--without observable success.