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Re: [Phys-l] Galileo was wrong



I'd be tempted to suggest that the complexity of the geocentric description did *not* defy description; within the accuracy of measurements. Which is one reason that description lasted so long; it was only when the accuracy of the measurements made the description untenable (Brahe's data as analysis by Kepler.)

The above grossly simplifies the history, as a two sentence description must.

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-----Original Message-----
From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [mailto:phys-l-
bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of Dr. Richard Tarara
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:50 PM
To: Forum for Physics Educators
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Galileo was wrong

Maybe it is 'just' a question of complexity, but while the motions of
the
heavens could be (were) described using a geocentric reference frame,
the
complexity of that description (rotating spheres on rotating spheres)
defied
any consistent theory to explain the motion. Subjects such as the
formation
of the solar system and indeed the whole 'big bang' theory of the start
and
evolution of the universe would be incredibly complex, if possible at
all,
from a geocentric frame--especially if you maintained that the
geocenticism
was absolute and 'real'.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Schnick" <JSchnick@Anselm.Edu>



It seems to me that a reference frame rigidly attached to the earth is
a
valid reference frame. It is not an itertial reference frame and
spacetime, as viewed from that reference frame is much more
complicated
than it would be as viewed from an inertial reference frame but that
just makes in an inconvenient reference frame. I don't think that
anyone can or has scientifically proved that one reference frame is
more
real than another. "Which is more real?" is not a physics question.


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