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Re: [Phys-l] H. Sapiens



Not really sure what your response was intended to mean. Your original posting was strongly hinting of eugenics - or possibly even worse remedies. Again, the question comes down to who enforces these policies. It's one thing to have a few zealots crying that the sky is falling in (the overpopulation crowd) and it's another thing to to have a government adopt a population control policy - ala the ChiCom approach.

Bob at PC

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From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of Rauber, Joel [Joel.Rauber@SDSTATE.EDU]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [Phys-l] H. Sapiens

Who enforces any policies?

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-----Original Message-----
From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [mailto:phys-l-
bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of LaMontagne, Bob
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phys-l] H. Sapiens

Who enforces the "policy"?

Bob at PC

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From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [phys-l-
bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of Rauber, Joel
[Joel.Rauber@SDSTATE.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phys-l] H. Sapiens

It scares me as well. IMHO, population policy (and every country has a
policy even if it is simply laissez faire) should be based on the answer
to two questions (1) what is the carrying capacity of the planet (2) and
what is the carrying capacity of the planet consistent with life-styles
that lend themselves a reasonable level of human dignity.

I assume the answer to (2) is a smaller number than the answer to (1)


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-----Original Message-----
From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [mailto:phys-l-
bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of curtis osterhoudt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:23 PM
To: Forum for Physics Educators
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] H. Sapiens

Remember the simple rule-of-thumb: If something is growing at x% per
time y, the
doubling time is roughly 70/x to double in y units. That is, a
percentage growth
rate of (say) 1% leads to a doubling of population in about 70 years.
That's
_scary_ to me, for _any_ population.




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From: Bernard Cleyet <bernardcleyet@redshift.com>
To: Forum for Physics Educators <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu>
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:15:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] H. Sapiens

Contrary to what I presume many think, Mexico is less adding to that
problem:

"Throughout most of the twentieth century Mexico's population was
characterized
by rapid growth. Even though this tendency has been reverted and
average
annual
population growth over the last five years was less than 1%, the
demographic
transition is still in progress, and Mexico still has a large cohort
of
youths."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Mexico


bc


Demographic transition:

http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1539




On 2010, Sep 11, , at 20:15, ludwik kowalski wrote:

Actually, I was wrong about the "less than 20 years, as you can see
at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

Ludwik

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On Sep 11, 2010, at 11:05 PM, ludwik kowalski wrote:

On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:49 PM, brian whatcott wrote:

There are less than 8 billion people presently on Earth. . . .

This is about four times more than when I was a kid. It will
probably
double
again in less than 20 years. How can one be optimistic about the
future of
sapients?


Ludwik

http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/life/intro.html




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Ludwik

http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/life/intro.html




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