Re: [Phys-l] SOLAR , NUCLEAR ENERGY etc.

[Marty Weiss <martweiss@comcast.net>]

	Who said anything about not working for a living?  That's the flaw  
with right wing economic thinking... they place everyone in two  
categories:  the productive ( capitalists) and the workers (lazy, non- 
productive, easily lead like flies to honey).  It doesn't take an  
expert to observe what's been going on in this country where the pure  
capitalists have the power of the media and government and warp  
people's minds so they think they are doing well or can be doing well  
with a tweak here and there, when in reality the carrot is dangled out  
and just when they are beginning to grasp it, the wealthy do-nothings  
snap it back so the worker bees have a longer distance to get the  
enticing carrot.
	Yes, we are naive in our thinking... the perfect example is buying  
and selling the same building over and over at a higher and higher  
profit, which made the boom turn to a bust, because eventually no one  
can afford to buy the building except the same people who started the  
cycle in the first place.  None of these guys actually built the  
structure... they simply turn it over again and again.  Meanwhile, the  
janitor who maintained the building and the repairman who fixed the  
plumbing go under and get laid off way before the owner (who usually  
bails out taking his money with him to the next building.  Cities are  
glutted with thousands of such buildings owned by non-residents who  
let them go to waste and abandon them to the truly non-productive...  
the junkies and thugs who drive out the working people.  It all starts  
with the non-productive wealthy class and ends with the non-productive  
poor.
	We already have the classes or caste system that you postulate.  We  
don't need to emulate the USSR... it is already here.  The difference  
is we hide it under the guise of democracy and unbridled capitalism  
and stigmatize everyone who sees that the king has no clothes.  .      
"We have met the enemy, and it is us."

Marty


On Apr 13, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Richard Tarara wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marty Weiss" <martweiss@comcast.net>
>
> > No, my dear naive physics friends,  many of the wealthy in today's
> > society don't actually do anything to earn their wealth.
>
> More endearing words..from (presumably) an expert.
>
> Well being naive, I can imagine a brave new world where everyone  
> gets an
> equal share of the pie--deserved or not.  At first it seems great,  
> everyone
> has enough to live comfortably, if not extravagantly.  But slowly  
> but surely
> what (I think) would happen is without a market for many high-end  
> products,
> certain businesses and industries start to die.  Without anyone with  
> 'big
> bucks' to invest, little or no new development happens.  When there  
> is no
> incentive for excellence, what's the point?  Why spend the money for
> College--you actually don't need to work to get your share, and  
> working
> doesn't get you any more.  So the society starts to fall apart (even  
> more
> than now--look at the sub-cultures that fall into versions of the  
> above.)
> To insure needed goods and services, the government starts to  
> dictate that
> all will work--those with the abilities MUST fill certain jobs.   
> We'll need
> doctors (at $30-50,000) so those with the abilities will be  
> drafted.  To
> keep the masses entertained, we will need performers and athletes.   
> The
> talented will be assigned.   Sounds sort of like a recently failed
> society....;-)
>
> Happy Dingus Day!
>
> Rick
>
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