Re: [Phys-l] Centrifugal redux

[Jack Uretsky <jlu@hep.anl.gov>]

Hi all-
	I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote my "almost a 
millenium" comment.  I agree with Marty's dating, with a couple of 
caveats.  The Penateuch seems to incorporate traditions that were 
available to the authors (sometimes called "editors") at the time of 
writing  (during the Babylonian captivity), including the Gilgamesh 
legends.  The existence of a Jewish nation (or people) seems to have been 
unknown to  the Greek traveler, Herodotus, and, perhaps, his countrymen.
				Regards,
					Jack

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Marty Weiss wrote:

> Aristotle lived from 384-322 BCE.   The majority of scholars date the
> Pentateuch (first 5 books of Torah) (especially Genesis) from around
> 500 - 400 BCE, long before Aristotle.
> Now, did the tribes of Judah and Israel have contact with ancient
> Greece?  Almost certainly the two peoples had contact and trade around
> the time of Aristotle and many of the ancient Israelites of the time
> had become *Hellenized*.  Later (after the time we are discussing)
> there was a flourishing population of Jews, in the first diasporia,
> living in Alexandria.   That does not necessarily mean that Aristotle
> saw the creation story from the Torah, but it is possible that it was
> one of his (or his contemporaries) sources and does not rule it out
> from the mix.
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Brian Whatcott wrote:
>
> > Jack Uretsky wrote:
> > > Hi-
> > > 	Dirty politics!
> > > 	Aristotle could not have known the  creation story because it
> > > would not be written until almost a millenium after Aristotle's time.
> > > 						Regards,
> > > 							Jack
> > ? Aristotle flourished 384- 322 BC
> >
> > A creation story is written in Genesis which I understand was in the
> > Jewish tradition
> > of Holy writings.
> >
> > Brian W
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