Re: [Phys-l] Climate Change - Is it Controversial?

[Bernard Cleyet <bernardcleyet@redshift.com>]

I think the reason carbon is used is it produces CO2 while H2 results  
is water.  The latter's vapour is a green house gas (more effective  
than CO2, even), but I suspect adding water, just results in a bit  
more in the ocean not the atmosphere.  The feed back (vicious is a  
better word than positive) of increased clouds due to a higher earth  
temp. is more worrisome;

thinks bc.

p.s.  I do suspect more carbon,largely elemental as coal, is  
combusted that H-Cs especially in China.

Some fossils I've dug up:


http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

I can think of a few arguments against the above conclusion.

more to our liking?

http://www.epa.gov/appdstar/pdf/brochure.pdf.






On 2009, Mar 13, , at 19:08, Jack Uretsky wrote:

> Hi all-
>  	Part of this discussion is misdirected by an unfortunate choice of
> terms - carbon - and, I think, "elemental carbon" has been mentioned.
> Carbon is not, except in rare instances, a fuel.  The fuels we use are
> hydrocarbons.  These burn readily, giving of CO2 and H20, and,  
> because the
> hydrocarbons often are mixed with other compounds, a variety of other
> gases and other wastes.  Carbon does not exist as a green-huse gas.
> So it is a little misleading to think in terms of a "carbon budget".
>  	It would be closer to the real issue oc concern to think in terms
> of a "hydrocarbon budget".
>  				Regards,
>  					Jack