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Re: [Phys-l] energy to charge a capacitor and stored energy



Ah! I apologize for not reading your question very carefully!

Apparently you're dealing with things on the quantum scale, rather than the continuum approximation thereof. My _guess_ is that either some strange ( not apparent to me! ) effects will come into play, such as the necessity of having the whole apparatus at absolute zero (or else thermal fluctuations will be much larger than any fixed energy possibly stored on the capacitor), or the classical formula gives one a totally correct answer (in absence of resistance in the circuit).

Unfortunately, without doing a large amount of postulating and convincing myself as to the correctness of any answer I give, I can't really help with this question at this time! I apologize again for my off-the-cuff answer.

Best regards,
C.O.

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----- Original Message ----
From: sridhar chitta <sridhar10chitta@gmail.com>
To: Forum for Physics Educators <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:07:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] energy to charge a capacitor and stored energy

Hi Curtis
One comment:
I assume that the 1.602x10(-19) C is the smallest charge possible and will
be the only one required to be moved and since there will be no opposition
by the capacitor plates there will not be energy expended by the battery.
Is this right ?
Regards
Sridhar

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 8:37 PM, curtis osterhoudt <flutzpah@yahoo.com>wrote:

Judging from the way the question was asked, a very quick answer is here:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capeng.html .
However, note that if you want to bring in dynamical effects, the strict
answer depends on how *quickly* the charging happens, and whether any energy
is allowed to be dissipated through radiation to the far field (for example,
from currents changing in the wires connecting the battery and the
capacitor), whether the capacitor is filled with an "ideal" dielectric or
something which exhibits hysteresis, and so forth.

Regards,
C.O.

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----- Original Message ----
From: sridhar chitta <sridhar10chitta@gmail.com>
To: phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:46:26 AM
Subject: [Phys-l] energy to charge a capacitor and stored energy

I use a 1V battery to charge a capacitor of capacity 1.602x10raised to -19
Farad (1.602x10raised to -19 coulomb is the electric charge of a single
electron).
What is the energy spent by the battery and the energy stored in the
capacitor ?

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