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Re: [Phys-l] photoelectric effect & photon emission



On 04/27/2008 06:05 PM, Paul Lulai wrote:
I have a question regarding photon emission & quantum states. When an
electron absorbs energy and gets excited, when it transitions to a
new /n/, does it actually exist in between these n values? Does it
dis-appear while it is inbetween these n values? Does the wave
function describing it simply change, so it doesn't end up with any
trouble existing in between n=1 & n=2 (where it should Not be in
terms of probabilities)?

I have this same question for when the excited electron 'falls' from
n=2 to n=1. I understand that the energy is released by screaming
out a photon. I do not quite get if the falling electron exists in
some 1<n<2 state, if the wave function describing the electron has
changed to cover for this, or what.

To paraphrase Bill Clinton, it depends on what the meaning
of "exists" is.

Fact: Typically the transition from the N=1 eigenstate to the
N=2 eigenstate (or any other two states) takes some time.
A) If you don't measure the system during that time, then
during the transition it "exists" in both states, or
neither. You don't know and you don't care.
B) If you measure it using operators that measure definite
N, then you will observe it to be /either/ in N=1 /or/ N=2
but never both and never anything in between.
C) However, there are plenty of other measurement operators
in the world, and you are free to choose to use them. In
particular, there are operators that will tell you, essentially
that the system is halfway between N=1 and N=2.

All this is well developed in the field of magnetic resonance, i.e.
NMR and ESR, and there is a nice terminology for it: The full
transition from N=1 to N=2 could be accomplished with a π pulse.
If you can apply a π pulse, then you can just as easily apply
a π/2 pulse, which is guaranteed to take the system _halfway_
from N=1 to N=2.

One commonly encounters the assertion that QM requires the
system to jump from one energy level to another, but this is
98% hogwash. You can make it true under certain circumstances,
but it's certainly not true in general.