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Re: [Phys-l] special ed/relativity



I would think the treatment in Knight's book is about as minimal as one can really take for SR and be true to your principles. Even here he talks about slow clocks (even if to say that's not really the right way to talk about it, yet he uses the light clock in his development). This treatment is WAY beyond what I can do in the liberal arts class. Again my point is, to counter what JD has said about NOT talking about slow clocks, masses increasing, and lengths contracting (probably didn't say this last), IS that these are the perceived phenomenon for someone coming from the Newtonian model. In my mind, it is still what the traveling twin has to conclude when faced with the final situation--that his clock must have run slow. Yes, the full explanation doesn't require a slow clock, but as a being who spends most of his life in a nearly Newtonian world, the slow clock explanation may make more sense and CAN be made without really violating any fundamental principles--being careful about what frame is viewing what frame. Therefore, I would still approach SR (first pass or only pass with gen-ed classes) from that view point--as do almost all the text books-- perhaps for good reasons, not just laziness or to defy the pontifical pronouncements of what is 'right' and 'wrong' coming from a few. ;-)

----- Original Message ----- From: "LaMontagne, Bob" <RLAMONT@providence.edu>
To: "Richard Tarara" <rbtarara@sprynet.com>; "Forum for Physics Educators" <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] special ed/relativity


The basic concepts of Special Relativity are invariance (tying together all the energy and momentum concepts from earlier in the course) and the mass-energy identity. That can be covered in 3 days without the need for DOT products or the like. Length contrraction and time dilation as a consequence of the constancy of the speed of light can be covered on one day, invariance on a second, and mass-energy on a third. I think John's point is not the math but a matter of not squandering the time available with useless concepts. Use the little time available to best advantage by only covering what is actually correct.

Bob at PC

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