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Re: [Phys-l] Wire through ice experiment



On Aug 11, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Brian Whatcott wrote:
At 09:20 AM 8/11/2007, you wrote:
Antti Savinainen is certainly correct when he says, "it is 'new science' to
many (if not most) high school and college level textbooks." . . . . .
In this regard I would like to congratulate Antti and his student Mikko for
their contribution in helping spread the word about the correct
interpretation of this demonstration.

I seem to recall mention of the wire through ice demonstration
several times on PHYS-L in the last few years.
THIS thread is the very first I recall that mentions the
crucial observation of no motion in sub freezing environments.
This points helpfully to the wire conductivity model as a
preferred explanation. Strange that I don't recall mention of
that other crucial experiment before - the one that uses
nylon filament.

I read the paper of Mikko Valjus (see English part of the attached file) with pleasure and admiration. I have one comments and one suggestion.

Comment:
The sentence “The line was not fitted through Ag (extreme right) because it seems to be a flawed result,” in the caption of Figure 4, is not convincing, considering the error bars. There is nothing wrong with not including the silver points but justification should have been different. A disagreement with a model is not a good reason for rejecting an experimental data point.

Suggestion:
Mikko and Antti should write a shorter paper, for example, for The Physics Teacher, emphasizing the scientific method aspects of this old, and well known, experiment. The scenario, to be created before writing, could be as follows:

a) Read a description of the experiment, and its traditional explanation, from a textbook.

b) Tell students that this explanation has be questioned, but do not explain why.

c) Expecting enthusiastic “Yes,” I would ask students if they want to see the experiment.

d) Perform the experiment in class. It is not necessary to wait till the wire cuts through the block of ice; one or two cm would be sufficient.

e) The fact is undeniable but is the explanation acceptable? What kind of test can be performed to invalidate the explanation? You might guide students toward the desirable answer, using a fishing road nylon instead of copper, as suggested by Mikko.

f) Perform the experiment with the nylon filament (same diameter as copper).

d) Discuss scientific methodology in the context of this experience.

If I were still teaching, I would try to create such scenario, and to describe it in a short note for other teachers. Please share other situations in which rejections of textbook explanations can easily be demonstrated in a classroom.
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