Re: [Phys-l] Draft of new international climate report warns ofdroughts, sta...

["LaMontagne, Bob" <RLAMONT@providence.edu>]

I was totally unaware that global climate models incorporate the sunspot
cycle and the associated variability in solar output into the modeling
process. I have seen arguments presented outside the global climate
models that argue that solar variability is not sufficient to explain
the global temperature changes that occurred in the last century
(although I find the data that Baliunas presents more convincing), but I
didn't think that this was explicitly incorporated in the models
themselves.

Bob at PC

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In addition ,  the effects  of global
> warming are
> so obvious now  that even Exxon Mobile has recently  stopped denying
it
> and is
> now fall back on the  " It ain't us ploy.  It's sunspots ,  its earth
> wobble
> etc. However the vast majority of  climatologists point out that these
> identified climate factors generate the  expected effect up until the
> point of
> significant green house gas build up where  the climate model
predictions
> for these
> causes diverge from what we see on  global temperature. You may not
know
> this
> but the Bush administration has  cut most of NASA's climate research.
So
> any
> reasonably intelligent person would  not trust them or the corporate
> interest
> they work for.
>
> It's  my opinion the human caused global warming doubting crowd  is on
the
> same level of respectability and credibility as the  intelligent
design
> crowd
> and in fact are funded from the same general sources  and share the
same
> political views. At this point ,  this is what I have  come to trust.
>
> Bob Zannelli