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[Phys-l] Propriosense and weight. Was: Re: g...

"Similar your proprioception tells you the force impressed on you by the scale or elevator or whatever. These forces may or may not have anything to do with mg i.e. weight."

I often experience weightlessness, at least that is my interpretation. I've never discussed this w/ anyone, but I think I've read it's quite common, but w/o an interpretation. Soon after falling (Note the metaphor.) asleep I'll awake w/ a shudder. and then fall asleep quickly 'till whenever. After doing this a jillion times, I decided it was due to my being not asleep enuff to be not aware that the bed was not pushing me up, i.e. I was falling because my propriosensors were no longer "connected" to my brain, but I was awake enuff to sense this.

What say you?

bc, writes w/ awkward construction.






John Denker wrote:

On 11/19/2006 10:42 AM, Anthony Lapinski wrote:

I mean that a scale does not always show your "true weight (w = mg).


That's for sure. That we can agree on!


Scales show apparent weight -- how heavy you THINK you feel. So when an
elevator accelerates upward, you feel heavier. You feel more pressed to
the ground, and a scale would register a higher reading.

Calling it "apparent weight" still seems like a step in the wrong
direction.

I would say the scale (in particular a spring scale) shows the force
impressed on the scale. Similar your proprioception tells you the
force impressed on you by the scal e or elevator or whatever. These
forces may or may not have anything to do with mg i.e. weight. The
fact that these forces are /sometimes/ equal to weight doesn't mean
they are always equal to weight. In equilibrium, weight is balanced
by other forces. In non-equilibrium, weight i.e. mg gives rise to
accelerations. Weight is just like any other force! The force is
the same, no matter whether the object is in equilibrium or not.
Force is force. Weight is weight. Acceleration of the object does
not change the force.

(Acceleration of the reference frame is another matter entirely,
but that's not what we're discussing here.)
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