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Re: [Phys-l] momentum and energy



Hi all-
It is much more than just some "cute mathematics". As Feynman has stressed, it is the idealizations that make physics (and, probably, science and engineering in general) doable. We abstract the key elements from very complex situations that allow us to approximately reproduce the situations we desire. That is why not every airplane is in its final form at the time of its first flight.
Regards,
Jack







On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Al Bachman wrote:

bc forgot that it is the momentum transfer that is constant, not V.

IMHO one should not push the topic of elastic collisions too much.
They are an idealized case that results in some "cute" mathematics.

All materials are deformable (atoms separated by forces that vary with
relative position). Thermalization, dissipation and permanent deformations
all occur. Just think of the energy propagated as noise in a collision!

Al Bachman
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Classically (N) p^2/2m = (identically) m^2* V^2 / 2 m Am I crazy?


If not, then, lim: m => inf. (with v non zero*) E => . not zero

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