Re: [Phys-l] Video Encyclopedia of Physics Demos (ownership)

["Bob LaMontagne" <rlamont@postoffice.providence.edu>]

Please don't hound poor Hugh! I was the one who stated that I copied tracks
of the DVD into my power point files - mostly because of the time consuming
procedure to access tracks required by the people who produced the disk.
Hugh only mentioned bookmarking.

The producers of the disks balked at this and I abandoned the procedure. I
ended up using the laser disk version because of instant access to the
tracks. I donated the DVD set to another group.

Copyright laws are sometimes absurd, but they exist and we have to deal with
them. I play classical guitar and sometimes enter refereed events where
players are rated. Even though you pay for the sheet music you are going to
use, if you make a copy so you can mark it up for playing (which everyone
does) you cannot play from the copy during the event because of copyright
laws. Technically you are not even supposed to make a copy of the entire
piece - you are told to buy a second original to mark up.

Bob at PC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [mailto:phys-l-
> bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of Hugh Haskell
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:05 AM
> To: Forum for Physics Educators
> Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Video Encyclopedia of Physics Demos (ownership)
>
> At 22:16  -0500 10/18/06, Jack Uretsky wrote:
> > What does the license say?  Hugh is bound by that.  The well-paid lawyers
> > will first look at the question, much discussed in the literature, as to
> > whether the copyright holder has properly bound Hugh to the terms of the
> > license.
> Please, please, please! I am *not* copying any part of the discs,
> only putting bookmarks to the locations I am seeking in my computer.
> This does not modify or change or copy from the discs in any way. If
> showing excerpts from DVDs in a legitimate classroom violates the
> copyright laws then just about every school in the country is in
> violation of the copyright law.
>
> I understand the situation where some schools copied huge sections of
> books in mass quantities and then sold them in their student
> bookstores. That is pretty clearly a violation of the copyright laws,
> but even copying small excerpts from books and handing them out in
> class (not charging for them) is within the copyright laws. All I am
> doing is *showing* excerpts, from the discs that I have purchased, to
> my classes. I also show the occasional complete video to a class.
> that has been standard classroom practice for decades. I don't think
> it has been changed.
>
> Hugh
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> that
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