Re: [Phys-l] climate change and climate scientists - editorial

[Jack Uretsky <jlu@hep.anl.gov>]

Hi all-
	"Authoritative" is an editorial word that tells us tha author's 
bias without communicating other information.  Would we all consider an 
opinion on global warming by Boris Winterhalter authoritative?  I doubt 
it.  Here's his publication list taken from his web site:
	Boris Winterhalter, 2001. The BASYS coring site in the North 
Central Baltic Sea Basin - a geological description. Baltica 14, 9-17.

Boris Winterhalter, 2001. On Sediment Patchiness at the BASYS coring site, 
Gotland Deep, Baltic Sea. Baltica 14, 18-23.

Kimmo Alvi and Boris Winterhalter, 2001. Authigenic mineralisation in the 
temporally anoxic Gotland Deep, the Baltic Sea Baltica 14, 74-83.


Other papers, etc.


Boris Winterhalter, Aarno Kotilainen, Ingemar Cato, Bernt Kjellin, Martin 
Jakobsson and Yngve Kristoffersen, 1997. Marine Geology of the Continental 
Shelf Off the Riiser-Larsen Ice Shelf, Eastern Weddell Sea, Antarctica. 
In: FINNARP-95/96 Workshop : scientific progress reports, Tvärminne, 
Hanko, Finland 9 to 10 December 1996. Antarctic Reports of Finland. Report 
6, 39-54.

Juergen Alheit, Andreas Lehmann, and Boris Winterhalter, 2000. The North 
Atlantic Climate Influence on the Baltic Sea Environment


Equipment descriptions


Boris Winterhalter, 2000. OSCOR - The New Undistrubed Sandy Sediment 
Sampler


Boris Winterhalter, 2001. GEMAX - The Ultimate Corer for Soft Sediments
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	It appears that the target of his attack is a movie or something 
by Al Gore, whose peer-reviewed scientific publications are minimal.  I 
would not look to either Gore or Winterhalter for an authoritative 
discussion of global warming.  I do recommend the Nature publication by 
the group that analyzed the Greenland ice core (I recall a recent similar 
one from Antarctica) as a starting point to learn about the science 
involved.
						Regards,
							Jack



On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Leigh Palmer wrote:

> Why would one go to an advocacy group [realclimate.org] to find a
> balanced review? Michael Mann is behind this group! (Yes, I know that
> 's ad hominem, but it is relevant.)
>
> May I suggest a critical, authoritative critique on GCM's to this
> group?:
>
> http://www.kolumbus.fi/boris.winterhalter/LEOprize/How%20can%20models%
> 20fail.pdf
>
> This presentation, given by a respected atmospheric scientist, is
> intended for a scientifically literate audience. It is appropriate
> for consumption by members of this group. You will understand the
> consternation of many competent climate scioentists from this paper.
>
> Leigh
>
> On 15-Jun-06, at 9:00 AM Mark Shapiro wrote:
>
> > A much more balanced review of Gore's movie is available at:
> >
> > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/05/al-gores-
> > movie/#more299
> >
> > Make sure all of that gets into your browser....
> >
> > Mark
>
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