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Re: [Phys-l] Caloric



some of us think of heat as energy and then it would have to be conserved.

Conservation of energy is not equivalent to conservation of heat.
Sound is a form of energy - sound is not conserved.

Bob Sciamanda
Physics, Edinboro Univ of PA (Em)
http://www.winbeam.com/~trebor/
trebor@winbeam.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "JMGreen" <jmgreen@sisna.com>
To: "Forum for Physics Educators" <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Caloric


There was not much response to the issue of caloric thus far. Let me be more direct:

For members of this list what is the difference in your views/ideas/images between "heat" and "caloric"?

I get the impression that generally it is thought that they both are fluids -- or fluid-like -- of course if we thought about it a bit, we would have to say that the total amount of caloric is conserved universally and we usually don't think of heat as being conserved -- except that some of us think of heat as energy and then it would have to be conserved.

As far as I can see there is not much difference between Empedocles' "fire" (of air, earth, water, and fire days) and today's "heat"

We are quick to say that we _have_ changed, but it looks to me as if all we have changed are the words -- from fire to phlogiston to caloric to heat -- but not the thinking,

Please comment

Jim

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