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Re: [Phys-l] Symposium on Copyright at a Crossroads



In response to my post "Re: Symposium on Copyright at a Crossroads," [Hake (2006a)], Terri Buckner (2006) wrote [bracketed by lines "BBBBBBB. . . "]

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I'm sad to see there has been no discussion around the battle lines drawn
between [Richard Hake] and [ITFORUM moderator] Bev Ferrell. While I have great respect for all the energy and expertise Bev has put into ITFORUM, I disagree with her interpretation of fair use. Furthermore, I believe that a forum of instructional designers and technologists should be willing to strike out against commercially-based restrictions like forbidding the copying of clearly referenced materials in an international forum. From what I can tell, the materials [Richard Hake] copied are freely available to anyone who wants to sign up for the NY Times online service. So re-copying the article is taking nothing away from the NY Times in terms of its 'intellectual property'other than bypassing some advertising that no one looks at anyway.
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Bravo Terri Buckner !!

In my aforementioned post [Hake (2006a)] I wrote:

"I fear that Bev Ferrell's (2006) interpretation of copyright law, **were it correct**, would shut down the efforts of Susan Ohanian, Jerry Becker, myself, and many discussion list subscribers to communicate copyrighted material to "those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes." See, e.g., Susan Ohanian's (2006) fair use notice [featuring <http://tinyurl.com/3z3r6>].

Why is it that Susan Ohanian, Jerry Becker, myself, and hundreds of other discussion-list posters of copyrighted are, as far as I know, not in jail and have not even been threatened with law suits? Ditto for the hundreds of organizations that sponsor the discussion lists [with the apparent exception of TRDEV-L <http://lists.psu.edu/archives/trdev-l.html>].

Among possible reasons are:

1. Newspapers and magazines benefit from the free advertising they receive from discussion-list posters of their copyrighted material.

2. The authors of material that's copyrighted benefit from the attention and prestige they receive when their articles are more widely disseminated to the academic and education communities.

3. Newspapers and magazines would receive some bad publicity if they
brought suit against Universities or professional groups that sponsor discussion lists devoted to the free exchange and discussion of information and ideas.

4. It would be almost impossible for publishers to quell, by means of lawsuits, the posting of their copyrighted material on the internet.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
<rrhake@earthlink.net>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>


REFERENCES [Tiny URL's courtesy <http://tinyurl.com/create.php>]
Buckner, T. 2006. "Re: Symposium on Copyright at a Crossroads (was Proof of Learning at College)," ITFORUM post of 6 Mar 2006 09:43:11-0500; online at <http://tinyurl.com/mqpwv>.

Ferrell, B. 2006. "Re: ITForum: Proof of Learning at College," ITFORUM post of 28 Feb 2006 16:29:19-0600; online at <http://tinyurl.com/ogmb7>. A response to Hake (2006b).
Hake, R.R. 2006a. "Re: Symposium on Copyright at a Crossroads (was Proof of Learning at College)," online at <http://tinyurl.com/z9sd4>.
Post of 2 Mar 2006 12:13:57-0800 to AERA-L, ITFORUM, Math-Learn, & PhysLrnR.

Hake, R.R. 2006b. "Proof of Learning at College," online at <http://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0602&L=pod&O=D&P=21791>.
Post of 27/28 Feb 2006 to AERA-L, AERA-J, ITFORUM, Phys-L, PhysLrnR, POD, and STLHE-L. Evidently DELETED from the ITFORUM archives by ITFORUM moderator Bev Ferrell.

Ohannian, S. 2006. Newsletter with archives at
<http://susanohanian.org/lists/announce/archives.html>. To subscribe go to <http://susanohanian.org/lists/announce/subscribe.html>. Ohanian is the winner of the 2003 National Council of Teachers of English [NCTE <http://www.ncte.org/>] George Orwell Award for Distinguished Contribution to Honesty and Clarity in Public Language.