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[Phys-L] Re: work and heat



=46rom: "Tom Wayburn" <twayburn@wt.net>
To: "Forum for Physics Educators" <PHYS-L@list1.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: Re: work and heat
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:44 PM

My answer to this question is the one I always give and some teachers=
won't like it. Heat and=20
work appear in the energy balance, but only heat appears in the entro=
py balance.=20
That's the difference. I can't imagine discussing energy without a =
balance=20
equation. Feynman talks about energy in terms of its conservation i=
n the story problem with blocks. The entropy balance is simpler rea=
lly if you know what lost work, L_cv, is. It closes=20
the entropy balance for irreversible processes.

The equations I use are at http://dematerialism.net/baleqs31.htm .

Tom Wayburn, Houston, Texas

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=46rom: "Carl Mungan" <mungan@USNA.EDU>
To: <PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:48 PM
Subject: work and heat


At the risk of opening a can of worms....

In a short letter (see URL below), I ask the question why distingui=
sh
work from heat in thermodynamic processes? I come up with two
reasons, both of them fairly limited (to reversible processes and
special kinds of irreversible processes only). (Conceivably one can
come up with one more use, namely to help interpret certain terms
that arise in statistical mechanics, but that's only useful for
identification not calculation purposes.)

I wonder if anyone can come up with any reasons I may have missed?
Curious minds want to know. -Carl

http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/FEd2.html

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Carl E. Mungan, Asst Prof of Physics 410-293-6680 (O) -3729 (F)
Naval Academy Stop 9c, 572C Holloway Rd, Annapolis MD 21402-5002
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