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[Phys-L] Re: judge rejects i.d. in PA case (fwd); appeal



Hi all-
Bob Park points out today that the judge said that the people who
brought the suit are entitled to damages (which I read as including
attorney's fees), so the judge is practically guaranteeing that there will
be an appeal.
Regards,
Jack

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But was any relief, such as damages, sought against the individual
members? If so, there could still be a trial on damages. I don't want to
read 136 pages, but what do the last two paragraphs of the opinion say?
Jack

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Shapiro, Mark wrote:

Both the school board and the individual members were named defendant=
s. It is unlikely that the case will be appealed. The school board =
now has different members who likely have no interest in pursuing an =
appeal; and, the individual defendants very likely do not have the mo=
ney to pursue an appeal.

Mark


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=46rom: Forum for Physics Educators on behalf of Jack Uretsky
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Subject: Re: judge rejects i.d. in PA case
=20
But who are the named defendants? Aren't they the former members of =
the
school board, sued in their individual capacities? If so, the electi=
on
did not change the parties to the suit.
Regards,
Jack

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Hugh Haskell wrote:

At 16:28 -0500 12/20/05, John Denker wrote:

It will be interesting to see what happens next. It seems a safe =
bet
that the ID partisans won't just give up.

This is an interesting decision. The judge is a G. W. Bush appointe=
e
to the federal bench. And he could have just called the case moot a=
nd
said nothing about the issues when the composition of the Dover
School Board change from pro- to anti-ID last month. I suspect that
he has riled some of the Prez's folks something fierce.

But will it be appealed? I wouldn't bother if I was on the Dover
School Board now. And I don't know who else can appeal it, since th=
e
defendants and the plaintiffs in this strange case are now pretty
much the same people. We may have to await the day when the issue i=
s
brought in a more stable district, or somewhere that the proponents
of ID teaching aren't quite so stupid as many of the former DSB
members seem to have been.

Getting rid of a school board that was clearly not as intelligent
(were *they* designed?) as most of the students whose education the=
y
were supposed to supervise may have been the best thing to come out
of this case.

Hugh
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