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[Phys-L] Re: judge rejects i.d. in PA case



"Let me be clear: I made the mistake of taking the ID partisans at
their word. I grossly underestimated the degree of lying going on.
I therefore became an unwitting participant in spreading these lies,
for which I humbly apologize.

"

Doesn't this sound familiar?


bc, who notes not much apology from participants in that "other" case.

p.s. not certain JD need apologize, just note the error.

John Denker wrote:

[cross-posted to phys-l and chemed-l]

M and D Weiss wrote:

The judge in the Dover, PA i.d.
case has emphatically rejected the school board's i.d. curriculum and threw out the changes the
board had made to the biology curriculum which had included mention of i.d. as an alternative
theory to evolution.


Yup. The full text of the court's decision is available at
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/images/12/20/kitzmiller.pdf


In fact, according to news reports I heard, the judge came down quite hard
on the school board, calling the i.d. changes nothing more than creationism in disguise, and
practically accusing the board members of deception and even outright lying in their courtroom
presentations.


I am always skeptical of news reports ... but this one is pretty close to
the mark.


practically accusing the board members of deception and even outright lying

. ^^^^^^^^^^^

There's no "practically" about it. On page 115 the judge says
"the inescapable truth is that both Bonsell and Buckingham


cut


Let me be clear: I made the mistake of taking the ID partisans at
their word. I grossly underestimated the degree of lying going on.
I therefore became an unwitting participant in spreading these lies,
for which I humbly apologize.

Of course many of the other points that I (and others) made in this
forum remain valid. For example, the judge left no doubt that ID
is not science. From page 64:

"We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one
of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID
is science."

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It will be interesting to see what happens next. It seems a safe bet
that the ID partisans won't just give up.

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