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[Phys-L] Re: light bulb transient



At 09:41 PM 11/14/2005, Mike, you wrote:

John Sohl made some measurements and posted them
on a web page. I have
done the same. My results can be found at

www.bluffton.edu/~edmistonm/light.bulb.pdf

My results are similar to John's but different.

(1) I don't understand the oscillations in John's plots. If the time
scales are correct, the oscillation period is about 200 ms giving a
frequency of about 5 Hz. This might seem to be a vibrating filament
except John's fluorescent bulb also showed the 5-Hz behavior. That
makes me think his time scale is incorrect.

My filament clealry showed 120-Hz oscillations in light output caused by
the 60-Hz AC power. The magnitude of these oscillations is considerably
more than I would have guessed. I wasn't sure they would be visible at
all, but they amounted to about 18% of the average light output.

(2) John saw his bulbs heat faster than they cooled during turn-on
versus turn-off. I saw the opposite in terms of overall behavior.
However, in the 120-Hz oscillations I observed the cool-down was
noticeably slower than the warm-up.


Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D.

I salute the experimental data adduced by John and Mike.
I question the use of AC if the impetus is to investigate localized
overheating in bright spots at the turn on transient though.
DC would show variations a little better? In the experimental
subjects, it is clear that turn on flash is not seen.

Page 18 of this tech report from GE R&D touches on the topic
of filament hot spots.
<http://crd.ge.com/cooltechnologies/pdf/1998crd027.pdf>

It carries an interesting reductio ad absurdam, the gist of
which follows:
if filament evaporation were uniform along its length,
the expected life would be infinite (!)



Brian Whatcott Altus OK Eureka!
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