[Phys-L] Re: [SPAM-6.111] Re: [SPAM-4.611] Re: THE WEDGE STRATEGY of The ID Movement

[jmackey at HARDING.EDU (James E Mackey)]

Delayed response. I've been out of town in Louisiana (another story).
You are correct. I  made a sweeping statement that I should not have
made.  My response was a reaction to the broad brush used by some on
this list to characterize certain groups with which they strongly
disagree.  That said, it doesn't excuse my doing the same. I will strive
to be more careful in my choice of words.  I have no knowledge of the
number of infants who lack necessary medical care due to no fault of
their parents, but even one is too many.  I would like to know what
solutions would be proposed to solve the problem without giving the
government more control of health care. BTW one might look at the
following article for some cautions about interpreting infant mortality
data between different countries.
"Registration artifacts in international comparisons of infant mortality.
Kramer MS
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term=%22Kramer+MS%22%5BAuthor%5D>,
Platt RW
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term=%22Platt+RW%22%5BAuthor%5D>,
Yang H
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term=%22Yang+H%22%5BAuthor%5D>,
Haglund B
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term=%22Haglund+B%22%5BAuthor%5D>,
Cnattingius S
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term=%22Cnattingius+S%22%5BAuthor%5D>,
Bergsjo P
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term=%22Bergsjo+P%22%5BAuthor%5D>.
Department of Pediatrics, McGill University Faculty of Medicine,
Montreal, Canada. michael.kramer@mcgill.ca"
Their conclusion, "International comparisons and rankings of infant
mortality should be interpreted with caution."
James Mackey
Brian Whatcott wrote:

> At 10:29 PM 10/17/2005, James Mackey, you wrote, in part:
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> > > BTW real babies go without health care in America,
> > All real babies go without health care???
> > //
> > James Mackey
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> This comment about "all babies" was unworthy of the
>  standard of James's other contributions to this thread.
>
> Of COURSE some babies get health care - prospectively
>  and post-natally.   The scandal of this most self-confidently
> modern country is that many children, possibly 20% of the
> new-born, do not get the health care that would put the
> mortality rates for children under 5 on a par with most
> any European country - like Spain or France, or Australia,
>  New Zealand and most any other first world economy.
>
> The other stray comment I read earlier -  that unhealthy,
>  impoverished American children are the result of lazy parents -
> is so in error that I can only ask:
> "Are there no lazy parents in Europe then?"
>
>
> Brian Whatcott    Altus OK    Eureka!