[Phys-L] Re: Two ways of refuting Einstein

[Colin Quinney <crquin@ROGERS.COM>]

<G> "and yet... it moves.." (Galileo)

It's all a part of science Moses :)

Colin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fayngold, Moses" <fayngold@ADM.NJIT.EDU>
To: <PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Two ways of refuting Einstein


> Yes, I would probably have done better by just ignoring it.
>
> Moses Fayngold
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>        -----Original Message-----
>        From: Forum for Physics Educators on behalf of Joseph Bellina
>        Sent: Thu 4/14/2005 6:07 PM
>        To: PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU
>        Cc:
>        Subject: Re: Two ways of refuting Einstein
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>        Pardon the flame, but I am very frustrated.  I put that nutnick
> Valev's
>        name in my filter system so I wouldn't have to look at the junk,
> and now
>        other folks are responding to it as if it is creditable, and I'm
> getting
>        it again.
>        Please ignor him.
>
>        thanks
>
>        Fayngold, Moses wrote:
>
>        > First, any claims at changing one of the relativity postulates as
> of now are only tentative assumptions. They are based on possible
> interpretations of a very small observational effect.
>        > Second, no serious scientist (Einstein included) has ever claimed
> that any scientific statement no matter how general is the ultimate truth.
> This is what distinguishes science from religion. Einstein himself made
> attempts to go beyond his own theory to reach more general description of
> all known interactions.
>        > Third, even if the above mentioned effect is confirmed not to be
> an artefact, and the corresponding changes of the current theory appear to
> be unavoidable, they will only indicate the limits of its applicability.
> They will not cancel relativity in the domain where it has been confirmed
> beyond any doubts, just as relativity has not cancel Newtonian mechanics
> within domains v << c.
>        >
>        >Moses Fayngold
>        >Department of Physics, NJIT
>        >
>        >
>        >
>        >-----Original Message-----
>        >From: Forum for Physics Educators
> [mailto:PHYS-L@list1.ucc.nau.edu]On
>        >Behalf Of Pentcho Valev
>        >Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:56 AM
>        >To: PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU
>        >Subject: Two ways of refuting Einstein
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>        >
>        >Two ways of refuting Einstein. A prudent one:
>        >
>        >http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1456590,00.html
>        >
>        >and a less prudent:
>        >
>        >http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev6.htm
>        >
>        >Pentcho Valev
>        >
>        >
>        >
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>        --
>        Joseph J. Bellina, Jr. Ph.D.
>        574-284-4662, 4968
>        Saint Mary's College
>        Dept. of Chemistry and Physics
>        Notre Dame, IN, 46556
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