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Re: Paying to present

If Dwight "takes me up" on my suggestion, I'll happily send him a
year's, or more, worth of stamped envelopes.


p.s. every month.

Herbert H Gottlieb wrote:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:15 -0800 Bernard Cleyet <anngeorg@PACBELL.NET>

I think Dwight should present the organizers an honorarium bill.
Repeat it every month and add 1/2% interest after 60 days, just as do


other pros.
This contretemps reminds me of how well the NCNsection AAPT
observes what ME's questions imply, etc.

The idea of sending them "honorarium bills" is a novel
approach that sounds interesting but might be self defeating.
I agree that the bills are likely to annoy the officers
of the sponsoring organization when they arrive every 60 days.
But Dwight will have to pay 37 cents postage for each bill that he sends.

Sending the bills by messenger or by other carriers may
cost Dwight even more money. Perhaps he should send them
daily bills via e-mail instead.

Herb Gottlieb from New York City

Michael Edmiston wrote:

I do not have a good solution to the problem of financing


and publications, but I admit I am often upset about it.

When I have worked at places (such as national lab) that paid all


expenses to go to a meeting, even if I was not presenting, I was


at the overall cost, but I didn't have to pay it, so I did not


Now I am in a situation where the annual amount my employer will


(even if I present) barely covers the registration fee, and I get


with transportation, meals, and lodging. Also, if I publish a

paper in

a journal with page charges, my employer will not pay. Yet, I am
expected to attend conferences and pursue a modest number of
publications as part of "keeping current in my field."

I often wonder if conferences have become things that can only be
attended by people who have generous support from their employers,


others are simply left out or have to pay substantial costs


I, myself, am likely to attend regional meetings I can drive to,

and I

appreciate it best when these are held in cities where it is

possible to

stay in reasonably-priced motels that are fairly conveniently


with respect to the meetings. Sadly, there aren't too many of


and those that exist sometimes (but not always) have registration


as high as national meetings.

Some of the questions I have are...

(1) Are conference planners making any attempts to keep costs down?
(2) Could registration fees be graduated according to the size or


of the participant's employer?
(3) Should there be more regional or state meetings held in


cities where it is assumed the participants will drive, and could


registration fees be held in check a little better than the



Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D.
Professor of Physics and Chemistry
Bluffton College
Bluffton, OH 45817

Herb Gottlieb from New York City
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