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Re: Capacitor energy experiment



Bob LaMontagne wrote:

David Rutherford wrote:

Bob LaMontagne wrote:

For the capacitor, excluding mechanical deformation energy losses, etc., the
energy is in the field - the electrons cannot store energy internally - they
are point objects. Others on the list have calculated the thermal KE
associated with the electrons themselves and it was negligible compared to
1/2 CV^2.

I'm not interested in what list members may have calculated;
calculations cannot be used as evidence. Obviously the energy associated
with the heat dissipated by the resistor, during charging, is not
negligible, it is 1/2 CV^2 (I'm assuming it has actually been measured).


David - If you reread what I said - I'm not refering to the resistor at all. I am
simply challenging you - since your accepted an energy of 1/2 CV^2 in the
capacitor in your recent posting - to show how an identical capacitor with the
same charge (and therefore field) could have any other value for it's energy even
if it were charged without a resistor, i.e. from another capacitor - or an
inductor in a switched circuit - or any of the other proposals that people have
brought up on this list.

I _only_ agree that the energy in the capacitor is 1/2 CV^2 if the
energy dissipated during the charging of the capacitor is 1/2 CV^2.
Otherwise I _don't_ agree.

Again, I'm curious only about your claimed value for the
energy stored in the capacitor - even after it has been disconnected from the
charging circuit and removed far from its location.

It depends on how much energy was dissipated during the charging of the
capacitor.

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