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Re: Thermo problem help!



Hi,

My first thought is the 1.5 in
dU = 1.5 n R ( T2-T1)

I think that 1.5 is for monoatomic gasses, but air
is mostly diatomic
The factor before the n is 0.5 X number of degrees
of freedom, f. For monatomic f = 3 and the factor
is 1.5.
diatomic f = 5 and the factor is 2.5

This will increase your dU by 2.5/1.5
or from 51 to 85.

Thanks
Roger Haar U of AZ
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SSHS KPHOX wrote:

I can use some help.

I am building a worksheet to show the difference in isothermal and
adiabatic expansion. Using Q = dU + W as first law. For adiabatic dU = -W.
Plotting the process on a PV diagram I used P*V^gamma = constant. For air
gamma = 1.40....according to one reference.

Now I calculate dU (really it is deltaU) as = 1.5nR(T2 - T1). The the work
should be the area bounded by the PV graph (I hope). The problem is that
for the numbers I am using dU and W do not agree.
P1 = 200 kPa ; V1=1 m^3; n = 0.04 mol; T1 = 600K
P2 = 103 kPa ; V2 = 1.6 m^3; n = 0.04 mol ; T2 = 496K
delta U = -51 J area under graph (counting squares ) 88J

I am sure I am missing something important or have a gross misconception.
Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance!

Ken Fox
Science Department Coordinator
IB Physics Teacher
Smoky Hill High School
Aurora, CO
kfox@mail.ccsd.k12.co.us