Re: School Board

[John Barrer <forcejb@YAHOO.COM>]

I think John's larger point was to note the major
fallacies built into the present systems of testing
and admissions. Somehow, we must, as a nation, figure
out how to narrow rather than widen the ever-growing
gaps (economic, educational, health care, etc.)
between the very fortunate and the majority. All of
these measures have been worsening over the past
twenty years for the majority of our citizens. John
BArrere
--- "RAUBER, JOEL" <JOEL_RAUBER@SDSTATE.EDU> wrote:
> John C. wrote in part:
> > I believe some of this has been around, but
> unfortunately
> > most evaluations
> > do not really test for the types of things that
> really show
> > student gains.
> > The SAT is actually highly correlated to Socio
> Economic
> > Status (SES).  An
> > economist showed that colleges could get a better
> predictor
> > of success by
> > explicitly including SES.  . . .
>
> Just to stir the waters a bit,
>
> Is anybody surprised that SES is a good predictor of
> success, academic and
> otherwise?  Does that fact invalidate the use of the
> SAT?  I would think
> not.
>
> The whole point of trying to raise your SES level is
> to improve things for
> you and your family.  One aspect of that improvement
> is a better education
> for your children in K-12, which ought to translate
> into better success in
> College.
>
> He then wrote:
>
> > The easiest way of improving SAT
> > scores and college admissions is by getting the
> reputation of
> > being a "good"
> > school, and then by attracting high SES students.
>
> But which is the cause and the effect?  You are
> simply saying you can
> improve your SAT scores by cherry picking; well duh?
>
> Even a low SES school could improve their scores a
> lot, by making everybody
> take the PSAT and then only letting the top 10% take
> the SAT.
>
> Joel R.
>
> This posting is the position of the writer, not that
> of SUNY-BSC, NAU or the AAPT.


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