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Re: Why Not Give References?



List Serves ARE NOT scholarly journals--nor should they be. This is a free
and open discussion forum. If you want to provide 10 references for
everything you post--that's fine, but please don't expect, demand, or even
cajole the rest of us to do the same. Most of us are not retired, don't
have software to generate the references, and certainly don't have the time
to dig up formal references for every (or any) posts.

That's my $.02

Rick

(Who was shocked the other day that Dick _almost_ agreed with me! I think
it surprised him as well! ;-)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Hake" <rrhake@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:00 PM
Subject: Why Not Give References?


As a reference freak and confirmed curmudgeon <:-{ and, I wonder if
Phys-L might be more valuable to subscribers if posters would take a
few minutes to adequately reference their posts? Five examples of
recent marginal referencing are:

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1. Joe Bellina (2002) wrote:

"I have a suggestion for a book you might find interesting. It is
Phil Kitcher's Science, Truth, and Democracy."

How about:

"It is Phil Kitcher's (2001) 'Science, Truth, and Democracy'"


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2. Jane Jackson (2002) wrote:
"Below is part 1 (of 6 parts) of a synopsis of a book that can help us
understand the thought processes of our female students AND, to some
extent, our male students. . . . Synopsis: WOMEN'S WAYS OF KNOWING (part
1)
compiled by Jane Jackson."

Why not:

". . . Synopsis: WOMEN'S WAYS OF KNOWING [Belenky et al. (1986)]"


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3. John Clement (2002) wrote:

"One thing that I would do in the elementary schools in problem areas
would
be to give the students a dose of Feuerstein's 'Instrumental Enrichment'
".

How about:

'. . . . give the students a dose of Feuerstein et al. 's (1980)
'Instrumental Enrichment' ".



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4. Tina Fanetti (2002) wrote:

"I looked in my favorite book, div, grad, curl and that and the wedge
product isn't in there."

Why not:

". . .my favorite book "Div, Grad, Curl, and All That" (Schey 1997)". . .
."


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5. Jack Uretsky (2002) wrote:

"On Wed. August 28 John Denker wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . .
The axioms state that each of the basis vectors anticommutes
with each of the others, and that's all that need be said.

"Not according to my book. Here are the axioms of a Clifford Algebra
according to one text. . ." WHAT TEXT ?????


Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
<rrhake@earthlink.net>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain


REFERENCES
Belenky, M.F., B.M. Clinchy, N.R. Goldberger, J.M. Tarule. 1986.
"Women's Ways of Knowing: The development of self, voice, and mind."
Basic Books. BTW, for a annotated compilation of references on Gender
Issues in Physics/Science Education (including this reference) see
Mallow & Hake (2002).

Bellina, J. "A book worth reading?" Phys-L post of 20 Sep 2002
08:05:35-0500; online at
<http://lists.nau.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0209&L=phys-l&O=D&P=51623>.

Clement, J. "Re: Is this OT?" Phys-L post of 5 Sep 2002 20:45:53-0500;
online at
<http://lists.nau.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0209&L=phys-l&P=R12163&m=38717>.

Feuerstein, R., Rand, Y., & Hoffman, M., & Miller, R. (1980).
"Instrumental Enrichment: An intervention program for cognitive
modifiability." University Park Press. For more on Feuerstein see at
<http://www.icelp.org/Pages/ReuvenBio.htm>.

Jackson, J. 2002. "Developmental stages of thinking (1: received
knowledge)", Phys-L post of 9 Sep 2002 10:07:57-0700; online at
<http://lists.nau.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0209&L=phys-l&P=26562>.

Kitcher, P., & W.C. Salmon. 1990. "Scientific Explanation (Minnesota
Studies in Philosophy of Science, Vol. 13)" Univ. of Minnesota Press.

Kitcher, P. 2001. "Science, Truth, and Democracy." Oxford University
Press. For more books by Kitcher go to

<http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?ATH=Philip+Kitcher&;
userid=64UGZFY7OW>.
Judging from his publications [e.g., Kitcher & Salmon (1990)] Kitcher
is a philosopher of science.

Mallow, J.V. & R.R. Hake. 2002. "Gender Issues in Physics/Science
Education (GIPSE) - Some Annotated References"; online at
<http://www.luc.edu/depts/physics/mallow.html> and ref. 21 at
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>: about 300 references and 200
hot-linked URL's.

Schey, H.M. 1997. "Div, Grad, Curl, and All That: An Informal Text on
Vector Calculus" 3rd. ed. W.W. Norton.

Uretsky, J. 2002. "What is a Clifford Algebra?" Phys-L post of 31 Aug
2002 17:17:28-0500; online at
<http://lists.nau.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0208&L=phys-l&P=R33321>.