Re: Is this OT?

[Rick Tarara <rtarara@SAINTMARYS.EDU>]

There is disagreement--especially in the psychologist ranks, but as one of
the very few full school districts to have tried uniforms, the stats below
are telling.

excerpted from:

Should school uniforms be mandated in elementary schools?

King, Keith A.
January, 1998

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Long Beach (Calif.) Unified School District -- comprising 56 elementary
schools," middle schools, and nearly 60,000 students -- was the first large
urban school district in the United States to require school uniforms for
all students, kindergarten through grade eight. Since 1994, when mandatory
uniform policies were adopted in this school district, district officials
have found that violence and discipline problems dramatically decreased.[18]
In the first year following implementation, overall school crime decreased
by 36%; sex offenses, by 74%; physical fights between students, by 51%;
weapons offenses, by 50%; assault and battery offenses, by 34%; school
suspensions, by 32%; and vandalism, by 18%.[13,18]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Barrer" <forcejb@YAHOO.COM>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Is this OT?


> Oops - I meant to say "Is there ...." Sorry
> --- John Barrer <forcejb@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Is the evidence that uniforms produce a measurable
> > effect on learning? Or is it just a belief/dogma by
> > some who want students to conform to a certain
> > standard? Sounds like more covering statues with
> > blue
> > veils to me. John Barrere
> > --- Rick Tarara <rtarara@SAINTMARYS.EDU> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bernard Cleyet" <anngeorg@PACBELL.NET>
> > > > However, on the same day I read that portion of
> > > his book, the snail mail
> > > brought my
> > > > monthly copy of The Costco Connection. Each
> > month
> > > therein is a debatable
> > > > question. This month's is "Should public schools
> > > require students to
> > > > wear uniforms?" Eighty per cent of the
> > respondents
> > > said, "Yes." Talk
> > > > about forced conforming.
> > >
> > > If we want to know why the public schools can't
> > make
> > > any headway on the
> > > problems they face, we need only look to the above
> > > comment.  When something
> > > is proposed that would have a measurable effect on
> > > improving the school
> > > LEARNING climate, it is immediately opposed by
> > some
> > > misguided 'civil
> > > liberties' concern.  If the proposal gets a little
> > > father--then the lawyers
> > > will jump in.  We should always keep in mind why
> > the
> > > tax payers are footing
> > > the bill for public education--I think it is to
> > > produce citizens with the
> > > skills and knowledge to be contributors to the
> > > society.  As much as
> > > possible, those factors that significantly detract
> > > from that goal should be
> > > eliminated.
> > >
> > > Rick
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