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1. How did 1 SD get to be "very large"? And 1 SD of what? Usually in
educational circles people seem to quote the change in the mean of a
group. 1 SD means about a 30% chance that the change was a random
fluctuation. The physicists I know usually insist on 4 SD as the
threshold for evidence of a new effect. Also, these statistical measures
can be utterly misleading if one does not know the distributions.
2. Much more interesting than the improvement at the end of a course
would be the results of testing after a summer, or even a semester, break.
My experience is that the apparent "improvements" dissipate very rapidly.
Regards,
Jack
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, John Clement wrote (in part):
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concrete level, it
Despite the fact that many students enter testing at the
is possible to structure the course so that they improve their thinking.at AzState.
This is now being routinely done in the intro. biology course
Anton Lawson has been a prolific publisher of papers on thesubject, and has
been pushing this idea for years. One of the latest paperspublished by one
of Lawson's collaborators mentioned that the course at AzState pushed upengineering, or
student thinking by about 1 STD, which is considered to be a very large
increase. The article is Wycoff "Changing the culture of Undergraduate
Science Teaching", Jour of Coll. Sci. Teach. XXX #5 pp306-312.
I can tell you the statistics for my course. About 30% of the incoming
students are at the concrete level, but less than 15% are still at that
level when they leave. Likewise only about 15% test as formal thinkers
coming in, and about 30% test as formal thinkers going out. One might
presume that courses which have a large number of physics,
pre-med students would have a high proportion of formalthinkers at major
universities. I would guess 40-50% or more. While atcommunity colleges
the number would be more like 20%, and for physics for poets courses ormay be below
courses with a large number of elementary ed majors the number
10%. This is purely conjecture because to my knowledge thissort of survey
has not been systematically carried out. About 30% of thestudents entering
the AzState general studies bio course tested at the formallevel, but the
vast majority were at that level at the end of the course (if Iread their
graph correctly in above mentioned paper). If we can pushthinking levels
up, and as a result have more success, shouldn't we do this?__________________________________________________________________
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