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Re: TIDES, was Asteroid Problem



At 08:37 AM 9/2/01 -0400, Ludwik Kowalski wrote:

Consider a perfectly spherical earth
at rest in the absolute Newtonian space;

There is no such thing as absolute space, and Newton knew it. Indeed
Galileo knew it, decades earlier. Pretending we don't know it doesn't help
anyone.

This is not nit-picking. I suspect that absolute-space misconceptions are
causing widespread misunderstanding of the tides. See below for more on this.

... frictionless track along the equator supporting 3600 cars
which are connected with identical springs. Cars are at the
same distance from each other (initial static equilibrium).

No good. The track provides a force of constraint that gives this
situation radically different physics from the real tide physics.

Key idea: The tide problem has nothing to do with the _position_ of the
earth. It is all about the _shape_ of the earth.

The cars-on-a-track setup focuses too much attention on the position of the
car-distribution.

If you want to do a simulation, do the right simulation: An array of pucks
on the D=2 air table. Measure the _shape_ of the car-distribution RELATIVE
to the average _position_ of the car-distribution.

Make sure the air table is big enough: The cloud will accelerate off to
one side (_position_) at the same time it is exhibiting tides (_shape_).

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IMHO the simulation wouldn't really add much. This is a solved problem two
times over:
1) The force diagrams make a vivid prediction of "what" happens and "why".
2) Writing the potential as a Taylor series sheds additional light on
"why". Constant piece + planar piece + saddle-shaped tide-producing
piece. I can visualize the 1/r potential and see these three contributions
to the potential without writing a single equation, indeed without writing
anything at all.
X) The simulation would perhaps verify "what" happens but wouldn't shed
any additional light on "why". I don't need the simulator for
verification. I've spent enough time near the seashore to have a pretty
good idea of "what" happens.