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How many people have been killed in the U.S. due to the operation of nuclear
power plants? How many due to coal-fired plants? Be cautious but keep your
caution in perspective.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Rogoway" <rogoway@SJM.INFI.NET>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Worrying about the long term (was Global Warming (NUCLEAR))
Another let's not worry about X because Y is bad too. I choose, in all myfree will,
to worry about nuclear material spills. The so called "specially designedcontainers
driven by trained drivers over selected routes" is brought to you by thesame people
who approved the Diable Canyon nuclear power plant plans that werebackwards. The
same people who approved falsefied weld joints on the Emergency CoolingSystem at
Diable Canyon and other places. The same people who approved flammablewires on all
the control and safety sensor wiring on Brown's Ferry and who almostapproved a
Nuclear Plant at Bodega Bay that was right on an earthquake fault. Thecontainers
were built by the lowest bidder. And now we have an industry friendlyFederal
Administration. James, I'm sure you have such trust that if the "selectedroute"
went past your front door you wouldn't mind. I would.our
Ray Rogoway
James Mackey wrote:
It hardly seems logical to agonize over possible nuclear material spills
considering the vast quantities of chemicals that are transported over
transportshighways by basically unregulated drivers & rigs (in reality). Nuclear
selectedare in specially designed containers driven by trained drivers over
aroutes. There's enough stuff rolling along I40 through Arkansas to make
nonuclear spill look minor.
James Mackey
"David T. Marx" wrote:
I think John made a good point, but I don't think people are thinking
of the long term storage. People are concerned with transiting
active waste from storage places around the country to a
centralized facility, such as Yucca mountain. How do we deal with
a rail or truck accident that spreads active waste in a community?
Another issue has to do with leakage at present storage facilities
into ground water, etc.
On 30 Mar 2001, at 15:07, RAUBER, JOEL wrote:
John,
I join you in your astonishment.
I had the occasion to listen to Al Bartlett talk about this. As you
terms ofdoubt know, he usually disguises the main thesis by putting it in
hearing whenunderstanding the exponential function. But a talk well worth
(NUCLEAR))given the chance.
Joel Rauber
-----Original Message-----
From: John Mallinckrodt [mailto:ajmallinckro@CSUPOMONA.EDU]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:00 PM
To: PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu
Subject: Worrying about the long term (was Global Warming
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Ludwik Kowalski wrote:
... Turning spent nuclear fuel into products decaying in
hundreds of years (instead of tens of thousands of years)
would remove the need for the long-term underground
depositories, like Yucca Mountain, Nevada. ...
It never ceases to astonish me that "the public" is willing to
worry seriously about how we would safely store nuclear waste for
tens of thousands of years, when they show virtually no concern
about the myriad, *far* shorter term, and likely devastating
effects of our current and ever increasing overpopulation.
John Mallinckrodt mailto:ajm@csupomona.edu
Cal Poly Pomona http://www.csupomona.edu/~ajm